Are Filipinos Asian?

Wednesday, 19th March 2008  

Note: Be sure to check out part two of this article!

I continue to receive hits via Google regarding the following enygmatic question… Are Filipinos Asian?

So, in keeping with my mission to further settle this matter once and for all, I thought I would do a follow-up article to a previous post I wrote entitled, Yes, Filipinos Are Asian!

Hopefully, we can convince those naysayers who claim that Filipinos are not Asian, and also persuade those Filipinos who are either unsure, think they are something else like Pacific Islander, or simply want to distance themselves from the Asian classification altogether.

The Official Geographical Definition

Geographically speaking, The Philippines is, in fact, located in Southeast Asia.

Taiwan and Hong Kong are just a few hundred miles to the north and northwest, and even closer still is Malaysia and Indonesia to the south and southwest, respectively.

Pilipinas

So geographically, The Philippines falls within the boundaries of the Asian continent, and so it is correct for Filipinos to be classified as Asian.

Filipinos Are Asian On A Nationalistic Level

The Philippines is a country in Asia with a similar history to Singapore:

  • They both have had ties to European colonization.

  • They both have been melting pots of various ethnicities (i.e Malaysian, Chinese, Indian, etc.)

  • They both are located in Southeast Asia.



That said, if you are Filipino or Singaporean, then you are referring to yourself on a “nationalistic” level. Though ethnically, you may be Indian, Malaysian, Chinese, or any number of different ethnicities. But nationally you would be considered Filipino or Singaporean.

There is no doubt that Singapore is considered an Asian country, and that Singaporeans are considered Asians. Should there be any doubt then that Filipinos too are Asians?

From Wikipedia.org:

Asian Americans are Americans of Asian ancestry. They include sub-ethnic groups such as Chinese Americans, Filipino Americans, Indian Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Korean Americans, Japanese Americans, Cambodian Americans, Laotian Americans and others whose national origin is from the Asian continent.

Genetic Studies Show That Filipinos Are Asian

Some interesting genetic studies have shown that Filipino origins can directly be linked to the Ami tribe of Taiwan, considered the closest genetic relative. Overall, genetic studies have connected Filipinos to Chinese, Korean, and Indonesian ethnic groups, all originating from Asia.

From Wikipedia.org:

Some genetic studies, based upon very small samples of the population, have begun to provide clues to the origins of Filipino people. Much remains to be learned by larger studies of valid statistical significance about the ancestry of the various Austronesian Philippine ethnic groups.

A Stanford University study conducted during 2001 revealed that Y-chromosome Haplogroup O3-M122 (labeled as “Haplogroup L” in this study) predominates among Filipino males. This particular haplogroup is also predominant among Chinese and Korean males. That finding is consistent with the theory that people migrated from China south into the Philippines.

Another haplogroup, Haplogroup O1a-M119 (labeled as “Haplogroup H” in this study), is also found among Filipinos. The rates of Haplogroup O1a are highest among the Taiwanese Aborigines. Overall, the genetic frequencies found among Filipinos points to the Ami tribe of Taiwan as their nearest genetic relative.[7]

A 2002 China Medical University study indicated that certain Filipinos shared a particular gene marker that is also found among Taiwanese aborigines and Indonesians.[8]

A 2003 University of the Philippines study based on 50 participants each from the islands of Luzon and Cebu provided some insight into the various places of origin of early Filipinos. Some rare genetic markers were found which are shared by people from parts of Asia.

Why Filipinos Shouldn’t Be Called Pacific Islanders

First, let’s look at Wikipedia.org’s definition of a true Pacific Islander:

Pacific Islander… is a geographic term used in several places, such as New Zealand and the United States, to describe the inhabitants of any of the three major sub-regions of Oceania… Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia.

Wikipedia goes on to specifically explain that The Philippines is considered a part of Asia, and is NOT considered part of Oceania, and Filipinos aren’t recognized to be Pacific Islanders:

Inhabitants of Russia’s Kuril Islands, Alaska’s Aleutian Islands, and the Taiwanese, Japanese, Philippine, and Indonesian islands, although technically bordering edges of the Pacific Ocean, do not fall under the definition of “Pacific Islanders” because such islands are not actually located within the Pacific or therefore any of the three regions of Oceania (Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia)

oceania
Map courtesy of Wikipedia.org

Because of the above definition of “Pacific Islander”, and because The Philippines is excluded (along with other Asian countries such as Taiwan and Japan) from the regions of Oceania, then the above information leads us to conclude that Filipinos simply are not Pacific Islanders.

How Application Forms Caused Part of the Confusion

Many Filipinos in the United States may have filled out college or job applications and had come across the part where you had to check your ethnicity. Many times, “Filipino” was listed separately from Asian, leading people to assume that the two groups are separate.

Why was this? And what was the reasoning behind this? My theory, simply put:

  • The Philippines was once a colony of the United States.

  • The English language (in addition to the Pilipino langague) is an official language of The Philippines.

  • Filipinos have the uniqueness of being under American influence throughout most of the 20th century.

  • Filipinos were one of the largest ethnic groups of Asia immigrating into the U.S. during the 20th century.

Is there any wonder that part of the confusion may have originated from The Philippines being a former colony of The United States? And with a need to classify Filipinos apart from other Asian groups, application forms and the like were tailored so that various government, corporate and private organizations could further differentiate certain ethnic groups from one another for statistical purposes.

The Whole APA Fiasco

On the other hand, to add to the confusion, certain authoritative entities had lumped both Asians and Pacific Islanders into one ethnic group for simplicity’s sake… namely APA, or Asia Pacific Americans. Though it may have been innocently done and with good reason, group Asians and Pacific Islanders together into one group has proven detrimental to the identity of Filipinos everywhere.

Here is some information regarding the use of APA, or Asian Pacific American:

Asian-Pacific American is a term that was used in the United States to include both Asian Americans and Americans of Pacific Islander American due to its official use as a race on the United States Census between the years 1990 and 2000. Since 2000 the United States Census Bureau has split these two groups apart because the majority of the people included in the term considered themselves to be two separate groups when questioned by the anthropologists who designed the racial definitions for the 2000 US Census. Now, Asian American and Pacific Islanders are two separate races on the US Census 2000, so the term Asian-Pacific American has decreased in use.

In Summary

I just wanted to conclude with specific definitions from Wikipedia.org that show differences between Asian and Pacific Islander:

The definitions and differences between Asian and Pacific Islanders are also clearly defined:

Asian. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. Thus it includes “Asian Indian,” “Chinese,” “Filipino,” “Korean,” “Japanese,” “Vietnamese,” and “Other Asian.”

Pacific Islander.

A native or inhabitant of any of the Polynesian, Micronesian, or Melanesian islands of Oceania. Some examples of the ethnic groups that would be considered Pacific Islanders are the indigenous peoples of Hawaii, the Marianas, Samoans, Guamanian, Chamoru , Tahitians, Mariana Islander, and Chuukese.

And I hope this finally settles the controversy and answers the questions… people have a right to be proud of their cultural heritage, but it’s important to know exactly what that cultural heritage is, and just as important to convey the truth. Then hopefully, the truth will speak for itself.

Another great read concerning this subject can be found here.



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  • CaliStunna818
    The Philippines:
    # They both have had ties to European colonization.

    # They both have been melting pots of varies ethnicities (i.e Malaysian, Chinese, Indian, etc.)

    # They both are located in Southeast Asia.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    You know the irony out of all this? The Philippines isn't the only country in Asia that has this past history. Vietnam also had colonization from France. They also have various ethnicities, ever notice how Vietnamese also can be dark and double-eyelids like "Pacific Islanders" or light skinned & chinky like "Chinese". No one really shits on the Vietnamese about claiming Asian.

    Most people I hear that say Filipinos are Pacific Islanders, are Fil-Ams. It's clearly evident on Myspace too. I seriously think Fil-Ams just think it's cooler to claim "Pacific Islander" like they think it's cooler to claim Spanish heritage, when not all Filipinos are of that lineage.

    Then people say like Filipinos culture isn't like "oriental" culture. One, Filipino culture does have some influence from that. Two, why do all Asians have to have that? People can't even see through their own B.S. SE also has cultural ties with India, including the Philippines.

    The only reason why people say Filipinos aren't Asian, both Fil-Ams and other groups is because the majority of Asians in the U.S. are from East Asian countries. However, you don't hear people saying Indonesia or Malaysians aren't Asian.

    Why is it so hard to understand that Filipinos are Asian? Asia is a continent and has many different languages, religions, cultures, ethnicities. People do not see how when it comes to "WHITES" they get all the diverse looks and images about themselves, yet when it comes to minorities in the U.S. they are limited to only a certain criteria.
  • BAB33
    Reading the article above...did the author ACTUALLY referrence Wikpedia? For real?...Island in the Pacific~I get it...Oriental to me = rug, plates, style...Far Eastern would be more palatable a term for a warmer, more personable group of people~I am a full filipina~
  • Anonymous
    I agree with BAB33's post.

    Half of your argument is directly from, or heavily reliant on, wikipedia. On that note, alone, it's hard to take your article seriously. I do agree that Filipinos are South East Asian, it's clear enough when you consider the proximity, ethnic-ties and diversity, and history-----your article, however, had no influence at all. I can't imagine who, save for a few 4th or 5th graders, could take this seriously.

    It's almost like if a friend came to me with some feverish symptoms and I gave him a 'professional diagnosis' based on what I found on webMD. Surely you could have found some more compelling and reliable sources, such as a book on Asian Anthropology, or, hell, something that ends in .edu.

    This has to be a joke.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous continued...

    by the bye, I stopped reading as soon as I saw your 2nd or 3rd reference to wikipedia.
  • Thank you for your thoughts. :o)

    The whole point of this article was to address someone labeling Filipinos as "Fake Asians". Because the Philippines is located in Southeast Asia, and other countries of Southeast Asia (Singapore, Thailand, Burma, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc) have been classified as Asian, then, despite the uniqueness of the Filipino people, we should be called Asians as well.

    And that is simply what this post is all about...
  • juan carlos
    My father's ancestors according to them were spanish, and it seems true with their brood's deep eyes and pointed noses. My mother's half native, and probably half indian because all my mother's brothers look so indian and the rest ,all the girls, very native. Me? TOO INDIAN. People mistake me often to be Indian-born or Malaysian-Indian or Filipino-Indian. Everyone still cares about everyone's genetic make-up. Good thing i don't.

    Despite of my father's ethnic claims, i grew up looking like an indian but i live as a filipino, not bothering about my racial identity or whatsoever. the aged mentality of wanting to be "other than asian" is but a lost tradition still making its way through our beliefs, our paradigm. talking about lost, do we feel exactly where we are as a people? we are not lagging behind. we are actually not moving, still stuck from yesterday's false dreams. Filipinos are filipinos, and we should be proud of it, period.
  • Juan Carlos: True. Filipinos should be proud of their heritage and culture. We are definitely very unique with various influences. Though, I feel our unique-ness sometimes confuses some Filipinos, especially those having an identity crisis of sorts, especially if caught between two different cultures.

    Personally, I have felt that I was Indian in my past life, or Tibetan.
  • Christine
    yeah...we should be proud of our culture and heritage...and why does it matters if we are Asians...Filipino race is a mixture, we come from different races because of inter-marriages. I look like an Indian girl too with some people asking me if I have Indian ancestry because of my round dark eyes but my nose not that much pointed...anywhere in the world Filipinos rule.
  • CaliStunna
    Indians are Asian....

    No one is saying that it matters most that Filipinos are known as Asian, but the point is Filipinos can and are considered as Asian.

    A lot of people seem to say Filipinos are unique, but I think Asians are all unique in their own way. There are many mixtures of Asians, especially in SE ASIA.

    Again, I think it's because people only see ASIA = EAST ASIA...they become oblivious towards the history and cultures found throughout Asia.
  • Christine: Thank you for your thoughts... what make Filipinos unique is our mixture of European and Asian ancestry... from Spanish to Malaysian, Indonesian, Indian and Chinese and Taiwanese.

    And our cuisine is the perfect example of fusion cooking (Chinese, Spanish, etc), yet still uniquely identifiable as Filipino Cuisine.
  • CaliStunna: Thank you. Well said... the fact that the Philippines is a member of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) acknowledges the fact that other Asian countries recognize The Philippines as an Asian country as well.

    But like you mentioned, all Asians are unique in their own ways.
  • Snow
    um sorry but taiwanese cannot be reffered to as a race but when it comes to lang. then it's ok.... and no I have nothing against taiwan cause my parents are from there...
  • Andres
    This article proves nothing. All technicalities..yea yea Philippines is near Asia and all that so what? Any one can just pull off information on anything. Who dictates whether or not filipinos are asian anyway? Indians are technically Asian too but they're not really 'Asian'. Filipinos are very different from all the other asian countries. For example all Asian countries use some kind of character based alphabet. Philippines uses an alphabet very similar to the Spanish alphabet. Culturally flipinos are closer to hispanics. Up until recently spanish was a required language to learn. Does any other asian countries have that? Just look at the language, food, and culture in general there really is not much trace of Asian in there..I am Mexican and my best friend is filipino so I have noticed many similarities in culture and tradition. There wouldn't even be any arguments over this if the phlippines was closer to south America. Yea geographically the Philippines is in Asia but so is India. That's about the only thing Asian about the Philippines..
  • Andres: Your comments prove that an article like that which I've written is important for Filipinos, in order to straighten out the real information.

    Why then, is the Philippines a part of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations? It's simply because the Philippines immediate neighbors are Asian countries and they are part of an important organization that serves Southeast Asia.

    Indians ARE Asian, and it's a fact that people in the United Kingdom consider Indians Asian and people from China and Japan Far Easterners or Orientals.

    Filipino food is very influenced by Chinese food, but also has Spanish influences. It's those unique differences that set the Philippines apart yet is still a part of Southeast Asia.

    If you look at the cultures of Indonesia and Malaysia you'll find that it is similar to the Philippines.

    Perhaps your thinking is that only ethnicities that have a character based alphabet like Japan, China and South Korea are the real Asians, then that is your opinion. And that is specifically why this article was written. To shed light on the fact that there are other Asians out there too... namely South Asia, and Southeast Asia. The Philippines has always been a part of ASEAN, and has always been considered a Southeast Asian country.

    Why would anyone want to prove otherwise? Basically, because there are people out there who are prejudiced and racist toward Filipinos, and would like to make some racist excuse to say they aren't a part of their group of people.

    And THAT is the main reason behind this very article. Equality amongst Asians.
  • Anonymous
    Canada is in North AMERICA, does that make them Americans?
  • Anonymous
    Filipinos are not Asians. They all have Spanish last names and their language sounds nasty. Their written language spells everything based on sound, and it looks like a mess. On the SATs, they have their own bubble that is not categorized with "Asian". They only claim to be Asian when Asians are recognized for something good, otherwise they claim to be Pacific islanders. The Philippines is in an identity-crisis, and need to get nuked.
  • Latinos in America have Spanish last names. But they are Americans. So your point doesn't really make sense. Filipinos with Spanish last names simply makes them more unique than other Asians because they have both European and Asian ancestry. ;o)

    Filipinos aren't Pacific Islanders. You can't call them that simply because they live on islands in the Pacific Ocean. Then Japanese should be called Pacific Islanders too. :o)
  • Brian
    Thank you so much for writing this article. You are right. There are many Filipinos who questions themselves whether if they are Asians or Pacific Islanders. When I was a child, I have had always claimed myself as Pacific Islander. Not because I thought it sounded cool, but I didn't know any better. As I grew older, I did some research about the country where I was born. And it has change my outlook of things. Now 26 yrs. old, I have always claimed myself as Asian.

    On second note, I have been researching articles such as this one. I have concluded, that no matter who you are or what race you are from, there is always that one ignorant person who has to put others down so that it makes them feel more superior. I find it comical because they are so worried about other people's cultur, and that they feel they need to degrade it because they can't really say anything nice about their own.

    The ignorance within them comes out making them seem really uneducated when it comes to knowing one's race or ethnicity. I am pretty sure that after I submit this comment. There will be that person who we all love so much of.

    Thanks again for this article. It has lifted my spirit up. Thank you and God bless...
  • rickytan
    the majority filipino's still look more like pacific islanders to me... more like hawaiians or samoans (like mini samoans).. if you look the the map of the world (except for the america's) the look of people is gradual... have you guys ever noticed that??
  • Sunhee
    I just wanna comment on what Andres said that
    "Filipinos are very different from all the other asian countries. because all Asian countries use some kind of character based alphabet. While Philippines uses an alphabet very similar to the Spanish alphabet."
    For your informantion Andres just like any other countries in asia Filipinos too has their own sets of character based alphabet called "Alibata" .
  • Good article randomguru. I've taken a number of Asian American classes that cover this subject and a lot of what you have said is very relevant and credible. Loved how you touched up on the APA and choices available for various public sponsored forms people needed to fill out. Before, definitely affected this social facade.

    Most of the comments above are completely laughable. Especially the ones deterring the reference-ability of Wikipedia. If only they took sometime to do their own research before posting apathetic comments like, "I stopped reading as soon as I saw your 2nd or 3rd reference to wikipedia." Sometimes I wonder if people even know how Wikipedia really works or do they just think it's some incredible place that anyone can edit?

    I also REALLY appreciated the troll comment left by an anonymous on how, "Filipinos only claim to be Asian when Asians are recognized for something good, otherwise they claim to be Pacific Islanders..."

    Despite a comment being left by a troll it still had some truth to it.

    Again, I know it's a little late but, great post nevertheless.
  • Anonymous
    hi hater!
  • Sorry, there are no haters here. Peace and Love to you. Hope you have a better day. :o)
  • wow
    these haters are so smart

    for the last name arguement -
    did you seriously think that every korean just happened to be related and have the last name kim, park, etc.
    its called last name was a european thing
    the same way that people just made up their last names in japan
    filipinos were given last names by the spanish

    filipinos look like pacific islanders -
    OMFG are you stupid
    did you think they just popped up there ?
    where the fuck do you think pacific islanders are from ?
    they are pacific islanders because they are too fucking far from asia dick head


    india is asia to-
    omfg INDIA IS A SUB CONTINENT OF ASIA
    thats why it can count as another area


    nothing asian about philippines -
    have you fucks even been to the philippines
    im pretty fucking sure the only philippines you people have heard of
    are from the fil-ams that have never been to the philipines

    - we eat fucking rice bitch
    - we have rice patties
    - we use soy sauce
    - our eyes are slanted
    - we eat things that show up in fear factor
    - just cause we dont get asked if we're chinese doesn't mean were not asian

    you know what
    people hate the fact that filipinos are asian
    because
    -our dicks arent small
    -we get girls


    have a nice day

    oh and one last note
    why is there always some video of some ugly virgin asian boy
    saying that filipinos arent asian
    just cause we get laid doesn't mean were not asian
  • wow
    omg i cant believe i missed this

    canada is a part of north america
    does that make them americans

    wow i think this person actualy thought they were smart

    people that live in the united states call themselves americans

    because its fucking awkward to say united states citizen

    and for the record
    no
    a canadian person wouldnt be an american
    they'd be in the classification of
    continent -north american
    specifically canadian

    same way that

    chinese are
    continent - asia
    specifically chinese

    filipinos
    continent - asia
    specifically filipino
  • Anonymous
    Well your right, Filipinos dont look asian(some of them) and come to think of it their customs are closer to Spanish and Latino. But their geography is located near asia therefore they claim to be asian
  • chibii28
    no offense andres , but your comment on this one ... is just plainly nonsense ... in some cases , yes , we have similarities but we can't be considered latinos . (not being racist) first of all , just because the spaniards conquered us , doesn't really mean to say we only have spanish ancestry .. before the spaniards came and conquered the philippines , we already had trading relationships with china , malaysia , indonesia , indians , arabs , etc. and through inter-marriage , our ancestors are ASIANS ! not all of us may have spanish blood but surely all filipinos have at least either chinese , malaysian , indonesian , indian or arabian - native filipino ancestors . so therefore making us different from hispanics and more close to being asian .. and if you didn't know , the only reason why we don't have a character based alphabet like the chinese , koreans , and japanese people do is because of the SPANIARDS !!! Filipinos , before the spaniards came , wrote in a character based alphabet which is very similar to the writing system of the indonesians called ALIBATA ! actually it is still used by i think three groups in the philippines ... i know one of them is the tagbanuas .. and the only reason why we don't use it anymore is because the spaniards did not approve of it ... they were suspicious and worried that through this system of writing , filipinos were plotting a rebellion against them ... just because we don't have single eyelids or a character based alphabet or yellowish skin , we can't be called asians ? our ancestors are from asia so therefore we are asians ! fil-ams are tell everybody that filipinos are pacific islanders because they pretty much never studied PHILIPPINE HISTORY and probably have no clue that the philippines is a member of ASEAN ... if we are pacific islanders , then we shouldn't be in that organization at all ! ask anybody in the philippines if they consider themselves as pacific islanders , i bet you they'll just laugh and make fun of you because they don't know what the hell you're talking about . oh and if we are considered pacific islanders because we are detached from the mainland , shouldn't japan be as well ? that contradicts every description about pacific islanders !!! tan skinned , double eyelids and use the alphabet ..



    FILIPINOS ARE ASIANS ! whether you like it or not !!!
  • Filipinos are SE ASIAN
    For those people who don't think "FILIPINOS look ASIAN"....you can learn about SE ASIA right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVgUP6ihgt0
  • Jograd
    I think we have a deeper connection between latin america and the Philippines. There, we are more accepted as "latinos" than other "asians" considering us as asians. Big relief because i dont want to be classified with the chinese because we are not as naive as them. Culturally we are as free-spirited as the latinos. Here in germany, I have more latino friends than asians because we can blend in easily while the so-called asians cry because they cant get any foreign friends.
  • The Philippines is no doubt a fusion of Spanish, Chinese, Malaysian, Indonesian and American culture. I think that is what truly makes us unique as a country and as a people.

    Once again, I wrote this set of articles to educate many Filipinos who grew up abroad (like myself) and may have an identity crisis as to who they are and their roots.

    We definitely have a very strong Spanish influence based on culture and religion, etc... we are also central to Southeast Asia and the Orient. That is a fact that if you are going to deny, then you are simply misguided or are living in a fantasy world.

    Here's what the Philippines "official" government website has to say about The Philippines:

    "THE PHILIPPINES stands at the crossroads of the developed western world and the Orient. It lies in the heart of Southeast Asia, stretching more than 1,840 kilometers. Composed of 7,107 islands, the Philippines is readily accessible to the different capitals of the world. Its three main islands are Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao.

    The South China Sea washes its western shores. Taiwan, China and Hong Kong are northern neighbors and further north is Japan. To the west lie Southeast Asian countries such as Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand. An arm of the archipelago reaches out towards Borneo and at its feet stands the chain of Indonesian islands. To the east and south, the waters of the Pacific Ocean sweep its headlands, looking out towards Micronesia and Polynesia.

    Its unique location has made the Philippines the commercial, cultural and intellectual hub of Asia from the dawn of history."
  • CaliStunna818
    "I think we have a deeper connection between latin america and the Philippines. There, we are more accepted as “latinos” than other “asians” considering us as asians. Big relief because i dont want to be classified with the chinese because we are not as naive as them. Culturally we are as free-spirited as the latinos. Here in germany, I have more latino friends than asians because we can blend in easily while the so-called asians cry because they cant get any foreign friends. "

    Cry me a river Professor Dick. Newsflash, ASIANS are not all Chinese. It's probably because you want to fit in with the "LATINOS" and that's all you know.

    I'd rather have ASIAN friends than a pathetic self-hating racist like yourself.
  • Mike
    I'm Japanese. I live in hawaii and there are alot of japanese/chinese/korean/ vietnamese. The filipinos dont blend in with "what we think of as asians." 99% of the filipinos look south pacific ancestry. They are just geographically in asia, but they look more like micronesian, palauan, austranesian, indonesian. There are exceptionlike anything else, but filipinos cant pass for asians because of their different features. You can call them asians, but technically they are not. For example, look at russia. Russia is also geographically in asia, but is more genetically like europeans. You can call russians asians, but they are technically not. It 's just as funny for a russian to call themselves asian, just like a filipino taking credit for the intellectual development of a honda car. I just think we need to stop making incongruent assumptions. Just because filipinos eat rice it doesnt mean they are asian. My white friend eats rice also, and I eat french bread. Independent genetics tests cannot possibly link filipinos to koreans. That was propably published by a filipino who wanted badly to be asian. "I guess I'm genetically norwegian then because I eat bread and I travelled there." Filipinos are just denying themselves of the truth.
  • CaliStunna818
    LOL they look more like Indonesian? So ...Indonesians aren't Asian now? hahahaha! I'm sorry but "Hawaii" doesn't represent Asia and is not Asia.

    Russia is actually part of both EUROPE and ASIA. The history books talk about EURASIA. Simple as that.

    "just like a filipino taking credit for the intellectual development of a honda car " just like a Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, Laos, Thai, Hmong, Malaysian, Indonesian taking credit for the intellectual development of a Honda car right?

    Ya so what, a lot of white people eat SUSHI...what's your point?
  • Mike: if i am wrong then you need to start writing letters to the U.S. Census Bureau because they are stating specifically that Filipinos are Asian in all of their statistics. That was the whole reasoning behind this uncovering the truth, based only on facts and general consensus. And it's people like you that have given me the reason to write these articles.

    anyway, just because you are japanese doesn't give you the authority to tell anyone whether filipinos are asian or not.

    sure, russians are on the continent of asia but are considered more european, genetically. but, my friend, the philippines is not only in Southeast Asia, though the culture and people have been strongly influenced by Spain and the United States, there is a strong Chinese influence as well as a Malaysian and Indonesian influence. and so far no one has said that Malaysians and Indonesians aren't Asian, so my thinking is that any negative remarks against Filipinos and denying their status as Asians is bordering on racism and prejudice.

    and Pacific Islanders came from Austronesians (Southeast China, Taiwan and the Philippines) and NOT the other way around!

    i think a lot of the confusion about Filipinos being Pacific Islanders came from the fact that Filipinos settled in Pacific Island nations like Guam, Hawaii, etc...

    Japan is a group of Islands in the Pacific. So why aren't they called Pacific Islanders? It's the same reason that the Philippines shouldn't be called a Pacific Islander nation because they are a part of Asia.

    and let's not forget the people of India. definitely have been called Asian for the longest time. Singapore? Thailand?

    once again. i challenge you to write to the U.S. Census Bureau and tell them they are wrong for identifying Filipinos as Asians.
  • Rick
    Filipinos gravitate towards pacific islanders in Hawaii. They live and go to the same schools. They all eat with their hands and look alike. I'm Chinese and think the filipino overuse the Chinese blood with them. I feel no connection to them. It all started from a misinterpretation saying that flips are Asian and now it's gotten into a whole mess and caused alot deseperate Filipinos trying to be Asian. Why can't they just be proud to be pacific islander. Go visit the phillipines and you'll know instantly that their culture is a derivate of south pacific. Don't listen to all this nonsense wiki proof. I was in the philipines and feltno connection to them. They should look elsewhere for the truth of their origin rather confusing their own people.
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    Filipinos gravitate towards pacific islanders in Hawaii. They live and go to the same schools. They all eat with their hands and look alike. I'm Chinese and think the filipino overuse the Chinese blood with them. I feel no connection to them. It all started from a misinterpretation saying that flips are Asian and now it's gotten into a whole mess and caused alot deseperate Filipinos trying to be Asian. Why can't they just be proud to be pacific islander. Go visit the phillipines and you'll know instantly that their culture is a derivate of south pacific. Don't listen to all this nonsense wiki proof. I was in the philipines and feltno connection to them. They should look elsewhere for the truth of their origin rather confusing their own people.
  • Darren
    lol. These comments can't be real.

    Filipino's = Asians. That's it, end of story. Legalities, racial history, cross government identification, international recognition. They are asian, period.

    I'm convinced people who keep posting that they're not are just trolling the site. It's not possible for people to be this ignorant.
  • Empress
    We are not calling you pacific islanders because you are an island in the pacific. We are calling you pacific islanders because your culture and ancestry mostly resemble people of pacific island austranesian(palauan micronesia, guam) descent. Dont take the word " pacific island literally." That argument of why not calling japan pacific islanders because they are an island is an uneducated argument. Please show more analytical skills in this forum.

    Just because phillipines is part of the ASEAN...does not make them asian. I am a heterosexual and is part of the GSA(Gay Straight Alliance). Does this affiliation make me gay then? Again, dont take words literally. This is a big incongruent assumption. One advice....dont conclude based on assumption.

    Ive been to the phillipines and it is nothing like asia.

    Someone also mentioned that filipinos have the 2nd highest income in the USA. When you look at the details it will tell you otherwise. I'm not here to ridicule filipinos but to clear up things.

    This forum is full of misleading stuff. If you walk away from this forum thinking that filipinos are asian...you are hiding the truth.
  • Choco
    filipinos do not call themselves pacific islanders because they dispersed out to guam and hawaii. There are alot of japanese in hawaii and they dont call themselves "islanders." I think people should go visit the phillipines and the pacific islands themselves....and see for themselves if filipinos resemble the chinese more than the palauan/guam. In hawaii the majority of filipinos live in the same neighborhood as pacific islanders. I wonder why?

    It's so weird because palauan people and guamanian people should be able to call themselves asians also.
  • Patrick
    Empress: "ive been to the phillipines and it is nothing like asia."

    Are you shitting me? The philippines looks very much like Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and every other southeast asian country. The dances are similar, the food is similar, the languages are similar.

    How can you say it looks nothing like asia, when the people are of similar cultures?
  • Empress
    OMG. I dont think patrick has been to SE asia. The dances and food is similar?

    First of all Dances and similar foods does not make you genetically similar to another race. Second, Vietnamese food is nothing like filipinos, and their dance is extremely different. You might be right about Indonesia and with south Malaysia(excluding Singapore). In singapore, the filipino group are among the most looked down segragated upon. Stop using superficial things like food and dances to claim someone asian....let's look at real evidence. People eat curry all over the world. HEllo. Wake UP. Breakdancing is all over the owrld....Hello wake up.


    I dont think Patrick has explored SE Asian extensively. Vietnam's culture and society is far from the philipines. They are majority buddhist with confusian values....etc...etc. I challenge all of you in this forum to explore SE Asia. You'll come to the same conclusion that filipinos are more like palauan micronesian with a mix of other things.

    The chinese community in the philipines are very racist against "real filipinos". Ive been there and seen it. Just because there is a small chinese community does not make the whole population asian. There is chinese communities all over the world and surely other countires dont claim to be asian.

    Go visit Phillipines. It will bring the truth out.
  • Empress: there is some much factual information saying Filipinos are Asian, that you are actually sounding quite irrational, and perhaps bordering on the racist side because your continual putting down of the Filipino people is pretty insulting.

    Filipinos are a unique blend of many cultures and people, that is true. Again, I ask you to take the matter up with the U.S. Census Bureau. And visit the Philippine government's official website.

    And I've been to the Philippines several times. It has the same look and feel as any Southeast Asian country would.

    Besides, i can't really take anyone seriously when they are hiding behind a fake name. Where's your blog or your URL... you simply reek of TROLLness! :o)
  • Empress
    Randomguru. It just shows you are more worried about my blog and superficial things rather than the real facts. If you visited SE Asia extensively , then how could you say it looks like any other se nation. Please...... Your judgment is very discredible if you think philipines look like vietnam or thailand...etc etc. You should not be taken seriously if that is your conculsion and judgment.

    I'm not racist. Im just blogging whatever I see in reality. Im not going to fight against nature and report otherwise. You keep on saying facts. but IVe not read one convincing fact yet except for food.

    Dont forget that ASEAN was created for econimic purposes, not because the filipinos are the same as other nations. You should take everything case by case instead of generalizing. Randomguru.... You need more experience in life.
  • Darren
    Dear Empress (The Troll),

    What point are you trying to make again? I kind of lost your point in all of the self-opinionated, ignorant bull crap you've been writing.
  • Empress
    I thought this forum was about ARE FILIPINOS ASIAN?. Everytime there is a naysayer..you guys call them ignorant..blah.blah. This kind of attitude is the reason why you guys willl never figure out that you are NOT asian.

    Darren. You sound ignorant and uneducated. I have no clue what your point is also. You dont even have a valid argument. This if a forum talking about ARE FLIPS Asian? We dont need to waste time with your useless opinion. Bring facts to the table instead of calling people "names".
  • Empress: Bottom line is not all Asians look Japanese or Chinese. And Indians and Pakistanis are Asian as well. The Philippines and its people, being part of Southeast Asia, are similar in many ways to other Southeast Asian countries.

    Darren and Patrick brought up excellent points that really make the whole idea of Filipinos not being Asian quite ridiculous and assinine.

    Empress, at this point your comments are pretty insulting to us Filipinos. Whoever you are you apparently are here just to insult Filipinos and their culture and identity. You should be ashamed of yourself......

    Anyway, I feel enough's been said here, that we are just going around in circles. So, comments for this article are closed.
  • Jessie
    Your research failed to examine the similarity of the tagalog language to the other polynesian languages. Our tagalog language don't even sound like any of the oriental languages. In fact, tagalog sounds similar to the hawaiian language with its emphasis on usage. I think you are trying to consider yourself as being chinese and you try to look for the chinese in you. Our nation consists of islands, over 7000 islands. We are islanders with brown skin, not yellow. The ancestors of the filipinos and polynesians are aetas. You have so much research garbage that you fail to examine what is in front of you. All the oriental nations have lighter skin than we do. We do not even have the same eyes as they do. Of course some of us have mixed heritage but the debate here is about the native filipinos. New Zealand is considered to be pacific islander and they are not even that far out into the pacific ocean. They are closer to australia. Is it because that we are closer to China that we can't call ourself pacific islander? When filipino americans label themselves as pacific islander it is because they relate more to that description. We are islanders and our nation reflect that. When you call yourself asian, you are in the same category as orientals. Do you feel oriental? Or do you want to be? Our features and tagalog languare is different from the oriental nation. You can't say outright that filipinos are so ignorant. It is you who wants to be chinese because you dislike your own darker brown islander skin.
  • 1. there is no way you can compare the Hawaiian language to Tagalog? where did that one come from. According to my research we are closer to Malay and Indonesia which is right in the heart of Southeast Asia. Maybe a little bit of Japanese and Chinese, not even remotely close to Hawaiian.

    "Tagalog vocabulary is composed mostly of words of Austronesian origin with borrowings from Japanese, Tamil, Sanskrit, Min Nan Chinese (also known as Hokkien), Javanese, Malay, Arabic, Persian, Kapampangan, languages spoken on Luzon, and others, especially other Austronesian languages."

    2. Let's not forget the East Indians, Burmese, Thai, Vietnamese, Cambodians, etc... Tibetans. You thinking is swayed by that view that only East Asians are the definitive Asians. Even people from the UK consider Indians to be Asians. And they call East Asians Orientals. So, it depends on who you talk to.

    3. Your opinion that I am trying to be Chinese is simply that... your opinion. I'm just trying to set the record strait that many resoures will tell you that The Philippines is a part of Southeast Asia, yes by region too. Even the Philippines' government website says this.

    4. If you look up any reliable encyclopedia you'll see that the term Pacific Islander is given to the peoples of Oceania, which The Philippines is not a part of. I think Filipinos are unique from any other people in Asia, and there has been some research pointing out that the Pacific Islanders probably came from Asian and The Philippines, not the other way around. But it's true that Filipinos are also unique because of Spanish and U.S. rule.

    5. I don't feel Oriental, like an Oriental rug? Not at all. But I'd like to think we are a part of Asia. Everyone else thinks so. It's only who seem to challenge this when it's not even a big deal, unless people deny this fact.

    6. Special Note: Your comment rings more like a "troll" type post and speaks only of negativity. I'm debating on deleting it, and if I get more negative comments I'm simply going to delete and require member posts only.
  • One
    Hi, I'm going to give many scientific facts why filipinos are oriental asian just like east asia and not hispanic or pacific islander or even african which some fil-ams mainly in southern california claim to be:

    1. Only 3% of the Philippines population has spanish blood.(333 years wasn't long enough compared to the thousands of years chinese were already there)
    1% arab, american, black, and other blood mix.

    2. Filipinos are more oriental looking than some fil-ams think. Many southern chinese, malaysians, japanese, look like filipinos.

    3. Oriental asian(east and southeast asia) has the dna gene haplogroup O dominant within their blood over 50% and not found anywhere else in the world.

    4. Spanish surnames were forced upon filipinos. Filipinos chose a surname out of a book called "Catálogo alfabético de apellidos" when spain invaded. Very few intercourses between spanish and filipinos occured which is why only 3% have spanish blood. It could range also with a filipino having only 10% spanish blood, because Philippines is no longer a spanish colony and no longer having intercourse with spaniards.

    5. Many filipinos retained their chinese last names like Sison, Chua, Ty, Sy, & Lacson, Ong, Go, Lee, and many others.
    Also many filipinos retained their malay last names like Abay, Inamarga, Payot, & Bornok.
    http://www.bibingka.com/names/

    6. 99.9% of filipinos around the world know that they're oriental asian.
    0.01% happen to be mostly fil-ams in southern California.

    7. Hundreds of thousands of chinese were already in the Philippines before the spaniards came in the 1500s and chinese were there for a millenia before that time. It just so happens that the Americans tried to cover this up stating that the Philippines was discovered by Magellan.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aPFaisFCW4

    8. Chinese is the 2nd most largest population, 3rd being korean shows that culture, trade, language, genetics have always been present in the Philippines for generations.

    9. Generally speaking, filipinos like other oriental asian eat rice everyday, almost every meal. Also have rice fields all over the country.

    10. A large percentages of filipinos in the Philippines are light-skinned and have slanted eyes

    11. Philippines is part of southeast asia and a member of ASEAN +3(Brunei, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Japan & South Korea) and all have acknowledged the Philippines as an oriental asian country. Also the US acknowledges this.

    12. Philippines has the 'mall of Asia' also many ads, billboards, commercials, media, and many others mention the fact that the Philippines is an asian country. There's also 'asian journal' a filipino newspaper.

    13. Aside from rice, the food resembles alot with other oriental asian countries, mostly from China: Lumpia(eggroll), pansit canton(chowmein), orange chicken(orange chicken), garlic chicken(garlic chicken), chopsuey (chinese mixed vegetables), pinakbet, sweet and sour chicken(sweet and sour chicken) and many others.

    14. The filipino writing system called alibata or baybayan was used before the spanish invasion and is related to many other southeast asian country writing systems.

    15. If filipinos are islanders, then would japanese, taiwanese, indonesians, malaysian, austrailians, and new zealanders be pacific islanders too? Geographically many of these countries are closer to the pacific ocean than the Philippines.

    16. Not all pacific islanders look hawaiin or samoan. There are 20000-30000 islands in the Pacific Ocean and some have people that look like african and even hispanic.

    17. The Philippines is in the China sea, north is Taiwan, and west is Vietnam.

    18. There are many other southeast asians that have light skin and slanted eyes. Also many south chinese, vietnamese, japanese that are dark and don't have slanted eyes.

    19. Around 4000-2000 B.C. ancestors from Yunnan Plateau in China settled in what is now the Philippines by sailing using balangays coming from Taiwan. Most of these group primarily used the Philippines as a pit-stop to go to the Indonesian archipelago further south. Those who were left behind became the ancestors of the present-day Filipinos.

    20. Since 200 A.D. indigenous people of the what's now called the Philippines were in contact with southeast and east asian nations.

    21. Caucasian(white) is a diverse race too:
    Hair color: brunette, blond, and red, etc
    Eye color: blue, brown, green, hazel, etc
    Nose size: long and short
    Height: Tall and short
    Skin color: brown, tan, white, red, etc
    Hair texture: straight, wavy, curly

    Mongoloid(oriental asians):
    Hair color: black and dark brown
    Eye color: black, dark brown, and brown
    Nose size: small and flat
    Height: Tall and short(mostly)
    Skin color: brown, white, pink, yellow, etc
    Hair texture: straight, wavy, curly

    22. Top magazines state Manny Pacquiao the first asian to win 6 weight titles in the US.

    23. All past and present leaders of the Philippines including the presidents state Philippines a asian nation.

    http://xichibi.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/filipin...
  • jose luis
    Hola me llamo Jose luis clavijo sanchez desde euskadi herria,boy hablar referente de la gran grandeza de los filipinos es octubiero una herencia española muy rrica i hagan lo que hagan los putos anglosajones de querer de destruïr el idioma español o castellano o cualquier elemento que los españoles dejaron la raíces española como la mentaridad como costumbre i la gastronomia i la religion catolica,Yo jose luis clavijo sanchez puedo asegura que los filipino se siente en el profundo de su historia en su corazon como en el alma de ser parte de la lengua española i como hispata en lo mas profundo de la raíces filipina i con el tiempo el español sera de nuebamente hispana en la normalidad i la lengua española esta de nuevo normalizado por la historia como por que hay provenir en el futuro comercial anivel internacional con lo cual que leden por el culo a los anglosajones yanqui a tomarla donde hosquepa,VIVA FILIPINA VIVA LA HISPANIDAD.
  • 毎日に探しているんですよ幸せ
    はじめまして。
    慣れないお言葉を使っていただいて、なんかその時点ですでに嬉しいです（笑）
    わたしの絵でよければいつでも見に来てくださいね。門はいつでも開けっ放しです。
  • Rodrigues11
    I heard that before the filipino language used the latin alphabet, we had a indigenous writing system similar to papua new guinea and palau. My whole family is pure filipino and I can honestly say that I am pacific islander. I was born and raised in the philipines, and being called "asian" is a new thing to me. In the philipines the "asian" people were actually very prejudice against me and 99% of the filipino people. Ive never been refferred to as "asian" until I moved to the USA. In the philipines the "asians" refer to us as islanders. Our customs, behavior, and genetic makeup, and appearance is definitely not asian at all. I appreciate your research, but do you realize that filipinos were categorized by "white" people to be asian. I'm from seattle and there is a igiroot filipino community here, and trust me, one glance at them and you will definitely know that they are "pacific islander." They have grass skirt thongs, and all the accessories and looks to a pac islander. Most of my filipino friends, as I notice in USA, like to say "I'm asian" to mask embarassment of our culture. Alot of my filipino friends and family, embarissingly sometimes tells other people that they are chinese, knowingly for a fact that they are not chinese at all. I think if we know our history, which we share more history with the pacific islanders than "asians", then we would be in great shape. I think alot of filipinos are just plain embarassed to be filipino....... I really wish we could be honest with ourselves. Plain and simple -
  • 1. The Philippines is one of 10 Southeast Asian countries that belong to ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations)

    2. No where on the "official" Philippine Government website does it state that Filipinos are Pacific Islanders. As a matter of fact the Philippine Government calls Filipinos Asian and a part of Asia.

    3. Wikipedia states this about who are NOT Pacific Islander:

    "Inhabitants of the following islands and regions are not considered to be Pacific Islanders: Russia's Kuril Islands, Alaska's Aleutian Islands, Taiwan, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, as they are not located within the three regions of Oceania (Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia)."

    Most Filipinos are of Malaysian origin (Malay + Asia = Malaysia), and even the language is actually closer to Malaysian and Indonesian. The Philippine Government website also states this fact.

    True Pacific Islanders more than likely originated from China, Taiwan, The Philippines and other parts of Asia and possibly Australia. But, Filipinos did not come from Pacific Islanders. It's the other way around. Matter of fact, new research points to Mainland China as the originating point of Pacific Islanders about 7,000 years ago.

    Most people who think Filipinos aren't Asian have a very narrow view of who Asians are. Asians cover a very broad and diverse group of ethnicities and cultures. Something to think about....
  • reynaldo111
    I'm filipino and Ive been mistaken for being hawaiian all my life. I even think I look pacific islander myself. Alll of My family and cousin as well looks pacific islander. This forum is the last desperate attempt to cause ignorant filipinos to disconnect from their pacific islander tradition, history, and heritage.

    Randomguru totally neglects anything pacific islander. He doesnt even acknowledge our pacific islander similarities. He brushes it off.

    Who cares what the government and what the "white" people say. The government could have simply said that filipinos are spanish/hispanic, and as a result randomguru would propably try and convince filipinos that they are spanish/hispanic with wikipedia and government facts.

    Randomguru should follow his heart, and not follow the government and what "white" say.The biggest evidence that filipinos are not asian is how we look in the mirror, and our language. We dont look like asians at all. Our language does not even sound chinese or japanese. Randomguru also desperately tries to link us to japanese and chinese culture. That makes me sad. He is desperate.

    Randomguru constantly talks about diversity in the asian community....What about diversity in pacific community, which filipinos are one of the ethnics that makes the pacific diverse?

    I urge all filipinos to follow their hearts and dont let a forum conivince you that you are not pacific islander.
  • I have been mistaken for Hawaiian many times in the past. But I've also been mistaken for an Hispanic as well. But now, Hawaiians themselves are a mixture of ethnic Hawaiians, Japanese, Okinawans, Filipinos, etc.

    Filipinos came to Hawaii during the 1st half of the 20th century, attracted to those islands by opportunities to work. They were part of the 1st wave of Filipino immigrants coming to Hawaii and then to the United States for better opportunities.

    I've already stated all the facts that I've put together in my blog posts about the Filipino people's heritage. No doubt there is a Pacific Islander feel to the people, the culture and the fact that the Philippines is an archipelago of more than 7,000 islands in the Pacific Ocean.

    I'm just trying to emphasize the Filipino people's Asian roots, because it's a fact that we have origins in Asia than in Polynesia and true Pacific Islander nations, who according to much research came from Southeast Asia, Mainland China, Taiwan and parts of Australia and New Zealand.

    If you look in the mirror and think you are a Pacific Islander, then that is your choice and the way you feel about yourself. Filipinos are a unique people that have become a fusion of various influences, cultures, and peoples. Which no doubt is one of the reason why I myself am mistaken for an Hispanic, a Hawaiian or somebody other than Filipino.

    But don't lose sight of the fact that the Philippines is a part of Southeast Asia and is geographically and culturally closer to Southeast Asian countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc than Hawaii, Polynesian Islands, Melanesia, etc. If you truly study those Pacific Islander cultures you'll find them farther apart in culture than say, we are to China, for instance. The Filipinos have been influenced quite a bit by Chinese culture and Chinese merchants traded with the Filipinos for centuries. Many Filipinos have Chinese ancestry, for instance.

    I wouldn't want to be just be thought of as a Pacific Islander, when we have strong ties to Asia AND Europe!
  • reynaldo1111
    Do you realize that the chinese have traveled all over the world. They have a history with the whole world that far surpasses the history with the philipines? The Chinese are more prevalent in other countries, yet people from other countries dont call themselves asian. The core root of our ancestors are not asian. I can bet you.

    If you have studied your filipino goverment history, you would have learned that back in the late 70s and early 80s the filipino government started a campaign to boost their image for trade and economics, and this campaigne included associating with the term "asian" to boost a good image for philipines. They fought hard to be part of SE asia.

    Do you realize that our most oldest cuisines are shared with borneo/papua/pacific? Bagaung, Underground roast pig, etc, etc. Soy sauce, lumpia, pancit is only a recent introduction to the philippines. Even the hawaiians eat soy sauce and have hawaiian fried rice, and hawaiian noodles.
  • The Pacific Islanders did come from Southeast Asia... from Borneo, Indonesia, etc. I don't dispute that. But the Filipinos did NOT come from the Pacific Islands, it's the other way around. The Pacific Islanders came from Southeast Asia and new evidence is showing that many came from mainland China some 7,000 years ago.

    Here's a nice link that discusses the origins of Pacific Islanders, and once again The Philippines isn't even mentioned:

    http://www.pbs.org/wayfinders/polynesian.html

    The Philippines is geographically and politically a part of Southeast Asia. What part of that fact don't you understand? If you can't believe what the Philippine government has to say (or not), then there's no point in arguing further...

    You believe you are a Pacific Islander. That is your reality... your mentality. So be it. And Enjoy! :o)
  • Reynaldo12
    The philipines is rarely mentioned in chinese, japanese, korean, vietnamese history articles. And when the philipines is mentioned in asian history, it refers to us as uncivilized islander tribal people. I guess that contradicts your claims.

    Like I said, the biggest evidence of our ancenstry is "how we look". Majority(99%) of filipinos look of "oceanic origin." You cant deny that.
  • The fact that you mentioned the Philippines not being mentioned in Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese articles says it all, that you have a particular definition of what an Asian should be. But you fail to mention India, Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia and other nations that are a part of Asia. I don't know where you are getting your "source" material from because you could very well be making this stuff up, and I've mentioning a lot of factual information. I do believe you are TROLLING at this point. But don't tell me I never gave you the benefit of the doubt.

    What you are saying means nothing!

    Should you call black people Africans even if they've never been in Africa? Do you call white people non-Americans because they were never the original natives, compared to the American Indians... the true native Americans?

    The Philippines is located in Asia. So therefore they are Asians! And like Americans (who are a big melting pot of ethnicities and cultures, if they were born in American they are Americans!

    The white folks down in South Africa are still called South Africans. Even though they originally came from Europe. Would you call them Europeans? What would you call the black people born and raised in Europe?

    Sorry, but your points really make no sense at all. And there's no more point in arguing with you.

    Anyone born and raised in America are Americans. Anyone born in The Philippines are Filipinos, and because they are in Southeast Asia, they are Asians. Case closed! I'm tired of dealing with idiots!
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