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Published on March 19th, 2008 | by Randomguru

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Are Filipinos Asian?


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I CONTINUE TO RECEIVE HITS VIA GOOGLE regarding the following enygmatic question… Are Filipinos Asian?

So, in keeping with my mission to further settle this matter once and for all, I thought I would do a follow-up article to a previous post I wrote entitled, Yes, Filipinos Are Asian!

Hopefully, we can convince those naysayers who claim that Filipinos are not Asian, and also persuade those Filipinos who are either unsure, think they are something else like Pacific Islander, or simply want to distance themselves from the Asian classification altogether.

The Official Geographical Definition

Note: Be sure to check out part two of this article!

Geographically speaking, The Philippines is, in fact, located in Southeast Asia. It is just as far from the Asian continent as Japan, only further south.

Taiwan and Hong Kong are just a few hundred miles to the north and northwest, and even closer still is Malaysia and Indonesia to the south and southwest, respectively.

So regionally, geographically and culturally, The Philippines falls within the boundaries of the Asian continent, and so it is correct for Filipinos to be classified as Asian, specifically Southeast Asian.

Filipinos Are Asian On A Nationalistic Level

The Philippines is a country in Asia with a similar history to Singapore:

  • They both have had ties to European colonization.
  • They both have been melting pots of various ethnicities (i.e Malaysian, Chinese, Indian, etc.)
  • They both are located in Southeast Asia.

That said, if you are Filipino or Singaporean, then you are referring to yourself on a “nationalistic” level. Though ethnically, you may be Indian, Malaysian, Chinese, or any number of different ethnicities. But nationally you would be considered Filipino or Singaporean.

There is no doubt that Singapore is considered an Asian country, and that Singaporeans are considered Asians. Should there be any doubt then that Filipinos too are Asians?

From Wikipedia.org:

Asian Americans are Americans of Asian ancestry. They include sub-ethnic groups such as Chinese Americans, Filipino Americans, Indian Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Korean Americans, Japanese Americans, Cambodian Americans, Laotian Americans and others whose national origin is from the Asian continent.

Genetic Studies Show That Filipinos Are Asian

Some interesting genetic studies have shown that Filipino origins can directly be linked to the Ami tribe of Taiwan, considered the closest genetic relative. Overall, genetic studies have connected Filipinos to Chinese, Korean, and Indonesian ethnic groups, all originating from Asia.

From Wikipedia.org:

Some genetic studies, based upon very small samples of the population, have begun to provide clues to the origins of Filipino people. Much remains to be learned by larger studies of valid statistical significance about the ancestry of the various Austronesian Philippine ethnic groups.

A Stanford University study conducted during 2001 revealed that Y-chromosome Haplogroup O3-M122 (labeled as “Haplogroup L” in this study) predominates among Filipino males. This particular haplogroup is also predominant among Chinese and Korean males. That finding is consistent with the theory that people migrated from China south into the Philippines.

Another haplogroup, Haplogroup O1a-M119 (labeled as “Haplogroup H” in this study), is also found among Filipinos. The rates of Haplogroup O1a are highest among the Taiwanese Aborigines. Overall, the genetic frequencies found among Filipinos points to the Ami tribe of Taiwan as their nearest genetic relative.[7]

A 2002 China Medical University study indicated that certain Filipinos shared a particular gene marker that is also found among Taiwanese aborigines and Indonesians.[8]

A 2003 University of the Philippines study based on 50 participants each from the islands of Luzon and Cebu provided some insight into the various places of origin of early Filipinos. Some rare genetic markers were found which are shared by people from parts of Asia.

Why Filipinos Shouldn’t Be Called Pacific Islanders

First, let’s look at Wikipedia.org’s definition of a true Pacific Islander:

Pacific Islander… is a geographic term used in several places, such as New Zealand and the United States, to describe the inhabitants of any of the three major sub-regions of Oceania… Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia.

Wikipedia goes on to specifically explain that The Philippines is considered a part of Asia, and is NOT considered part of Oceania, and Filipinos aren’t recognized to be Pacific Islanders:

Inhabitants of Russia’s Kuril Islands, Alaska’s Aleutian Islands, and the Taiwanese, Japanese, Philippine, and Indonesian islands, although technically bordering edges of the Pacific Ocean, do not fall under the definition of “Pacific Islanders” because such islands are not actually located within the Pacific or therefore any of the three regions of Oceania (Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia)

oceania
Map courtesy of Wikipedia.org

Because of the above definition of “Pacific Islander”, and because The Philippines is excluded (along with other Asian countries such as Taiwan and Japan) from the regions of Oceania, then the above information leads us to conclude that Filipinos simply are not Pacific Islanders.

How Application Forms Caused Part of the Confusion

Many Filipinos in the United States may have filled out college or job applications and had come across the part where you had to check your ethnicity. Many times, “Filipino” was listed separately from Asian, leading people to assume that the two groups are separate.

Why was this? And what was the reasoning behind this? My theory, simply put:

  • The Philippines was once a colony of the United States.
  • The English language (in addition to the Pilipino langague) is an official language of The Philippines.
  • Filipinos have the uniqueness of being under American influence throughout most of the 20th century.
  • Filipinos were one of the largest ethnic groups of Asia immigrating into the U.S. during the 20th century.

Is there any wonder that part of the confusion may have originated from The Philippines being a former colony of The United States? And with a need to classify Filipinos apart from other Asian groups, application forms and the like were tailored so that various government, corporate and private organizations could further differentiate certain ethnic groups from one another for statistical purposes.

The Whole APA Fiasco

On the other hand, to add to the confusion, certain authoritative entities had lumped both Asians and Pacific Islanders into one ethnic group for simplicity’s sake… namely APA, or Asia Pacific Americans. Though it may have been innocently done and with good reason, group Asians and Pacific Islanders together into one group has proven detrimental to the identity of Filipinos everywhere.

Here is some information regarding the use of APA, or Asian Pacific American:

Asian-Pacific American is a term that was used in the United States to include both Asian Americans and Americans of Pacific Islander American due to its official use as a race on the United States Census between the years 1990 and 2000. Since 2000 the United States Census Bureau has split these two groups apart because the majority of the people included in the term considered themselves to be two separate groups when questioned by the anthropologists who designed the racial definitions for the 2000 US Census. Now, Asian American and Pacific Islanders are two separate races on the US Census 2000, so the term Asian-Pacific American has decreased in use.

In Summary

I just wanted to conclude with specific definitions from Wikipedia.org that show differences between Asian and Pacific Islander:

The definitions and differences between Asian and Pacific Islanders are also clearly defined:

Asian.
A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. Thus it includes “Asian Indian,” “Chinese,” “Filipino,” “Korean,” “Japanese,” “Vietnamese,” and “Other Asian.”

Pacific Islander.

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A native or inhabitant of any of the Polynesian, Micronesian, or Melanesian islands of Oceania. Some examples of the ethnic groups that would be considered Pacific Islanders are the indigenous peoples of Hawaii, the Marianas, Samoans, Guamanian, Chamoru , Tahitians, Mariana Islander, and Chuukese.

And I hope this finally settles the controversy and answers the questions… people have a right to be proud of their cultural heritage, but it’s important to know exactly what that cultural heritage is, and just as important to convey the truth. Then hopefully, the truth will speak for itself.

Another great read concerning this subject can be found here.

Continue on to Part 2.

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  • CaliStunna818

    The Philippines:
    # They both have had ties to European colonization.

    # They both have been melting pots of varies ethnicities (i.e Malaysian, Chinese, Indian, etc.)

    # They both are located in Southeast Asia.
    ———————————————————————————

    You know the irony out of all this? The Philippines isn’t the only country in Asia that has this past history. Vietnam also had colonization from France. They also have various ethnicities, ever notice how Vietnamese also can be dark and double-eyelids like “Pacific Islanders” or light skinned & chinky like “Chinese”. No one really shits on the Vietnamese about claiming Asian.

    Most people I hear that say Filipinos are Pacific Islanders, are Fil-Ams. It’s clearly evident on Myspace too. I seriously think Fil-Ams just think it’s cooler to claim “Pacific Islander” like they think it’s cooler to claim Spanish heritage, when not all Filipinos are of that lineage.

    Then people say like Filipinos culture isn’t like “oriental” culture. One, Filipino culture does have some influence from that. Two, why do all Asians have to have that? People can’t even see through their own B.S. SE also has cultural ties with India, including the Philippines.

    The only reason why people say Filipinos aren’t Asian, both Fil-Ams and other groups is because the majority of Asians in the U.S. are from East Asian countries. However, you don’t hear people saying Indonesia or Malaysians aren’t Asian.

    Why is it so hard to understand that Filipinos are Asian? Asia is a continent and has many different languages, religions, cultures, ethnicities. People do not see how when it comes to “WHITES” they get all the diverse looks and images about themselves, yet when it comes to minorities in the U.S. they are limited to only a certain criteria.

  • CaliStunna818

    The Philippines:
    # They both have had ties to European colonization.

    # They both have been melting pots of varies ethnicities (i.e Malaysian, Chinese, Indian, etc.)

    # They both are located in Southeast Asia.
    ———————————————————————————

    You know the irony out of all this? The Philippines isn’t the only country in Asia that has this past history. Vietnam also had colonization from France. They also have various ethnicities, ever notice how Vietnamese also can be dark and double-eyelids like “Pacific Islanders” or light skinned & chinky like “Chinese”. No one really shits on the Vietnamese about claiming Asian.

    Most people I hear that say Filipinos are Pacific Islanders, are Fil-Ams. It’s clearly evident on Myspace too. I seriously think Fil-Ams just think it’s cooler to claim “Pacific Islander” like they think it’s cooler to claim Spanish heritage, when not all Filipinos are of that lineage.

    Then people say like Filipinos culture isn’t like “oriental” culture. One, Filipino culture does have some influence from that. Two, why do all Asians have to have that? People can’t even see through their own B.S. SE also has cultural ties with India, including the Philippines.

    The only reason why people say Filipinos aren’t Asian, both Fil-Ams and other groups is because the majority of Asians in the U.S. are from East Asian countries. However, you don’t hear people saying Indonesia or Malaysians aren’t Asian.

    Why is it so hard to understand that Filipinos are Asian? Asia is a continent and has many different languages, religions, cultures, ethnicities. People do not see how when it comes to “WHITES” they get all the diverse looks and images about themselves, yet when it comes to minorities in the U.S. they are limited to only a certain criteria.

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  • BAB33

    Reading the article above…did the author ACTUALLY referrence Wikpedia? For real?…Island in the Pacific~I get it…Oriental to me = rug, plates, style…Far Eastern would be more palatable a term for a warmer, more personable group of people~I am a full filipina~

  • http://BAB33 BAB33

    Reading the article above…did the author ACTUALLY referrence Wikpedia? For real?…Island in the Pacific~I get it…Oriental to me = rug, plates, style…Far Eastern would be more palatable a term for a warmer, more personable group of people~I am a full filipina~

  • Anonymous

    I agree with BAB33′s post.

    Half of your argument is directly from, or heavily reliant on, wikipedia. On that note, alone, it’s hard to take your article seriously. I do agree that Filipinos are South East Asian, it’s clear enough when you consider the proximity, ethnic-ties and diversity, and history—–your article, however, had no influence at all. I can’t imagine who, save for a few 4th or 5th graders, could take this seriously.

    It’s almost like if a friend came to me with some feverish symptoms and I gave him a ‘professional diagnosis’ based on what I found on webMD. Surely you could have found some more compelling and reliable sources, such as a book on Asian Anthropology, or, hell, something that ends in .edu.

    This has to be a joke.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with BAB33′s post.

    Half of your argument is directly from, or heavily reliant on, wikipedia. On that note, alone, it’s hard to take your article seriously. I do agree that Filipinos are South East Asian, it’s clear enough when you consider the proximity, ethnic-ties and diversity, and history—–your article, however, had no influence at all. I can’t imagine who, save for a few 4th or 5th graders, could take this seriously.

    It’s almost like if a friend came to me with some feverish symptoms and I gave him a ‘professional diagnosis’ based on what I found on webMD. Surely you could have found some more compelling and reliable sources, such as a book on Asian Anthropology, or, hell, something that ends in .edu.

    This has to be a joke.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous continued…

    by the bye, I stopped reading as soon as I saw your 2nd or 3rd reference to wikipedia.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous continued…

    by the bye, I stopped reading as soon as I saw your 2nd or 3rd reference to wikipedia.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ randomguru

    Thank you for your thoughts. :o)

    The whole point of this article was to address someone labeling Filipinos as “Fake Asians”. Because the Philippines is located in Southeast Asia, and other countries of Southeast Asia (Singapore, Thailand, Burma, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc) have been classified as Asian, then, despite the uniqueness of the Filipino people, we should be called Asians as well.

    And that is simply what this post is all about…

  • http://carlosrull.com randomguru

    Thank you for your thoughts. :o)

    The whole point of this article was to address someone labeling Filipinos as “Fake Asians”. Because the Philippines is located in Southeast Asia, and other countries of Southeast Asia (Singapore, Thailand, Burma, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc) have been classified as Asian, then, despite the uniqueness of the Filipino people, we should be called Asians as well.

    And that is simply what this post is all about…

  • juan carlos

    My father’s ancestors according to them were spanish, and it seems true with their brood’s deep eyes and pointed noses. My mother’s half native, and probably half indian because all my mother’s brothers look so indian and the rest ,all the girls, very native. Me? TOO INDIAN. People mistake me often to be Indian-born or Malaysian-Indian or Filipino-Indian. Everyone still cares about everyone’s genetic make-up. Good thing i don’t.

    Despite of my father’s ethnic claims, i grew up looking like an indian but i live as a filipino, not bothering about my racial identity or whatsoever. the aged mentality of wanting to be “other than asian” is but a lost tradition still making its way through our beliefs, our paradigm. talking about lost, do we feel exactly where we are as a people? we are not lagging behind. we are actually not moving, still stuck from yesterday’s false dreams. Filipinos are filipinos, and we should be proud of it, period.

  • juan carlos

    My father’s ancestors according to them were spanish, and it seems true with their brood’s deep eyes and pointed noses. My mother’s half native, and probably half indian because all my mother’s brothers look so indian and the rest ,all the girls, very native. Me? TOO INDIAN. People mistake me often to be Indian-born or Malaysian-Indian or Filipino-Indian. Everyone still cares about everyone’s genetic make-up. Good thing i don’t.

    Despite of my father’s ethnic claims, i grew up looking like an indian but i live as a filipino, not bothering about my racial identity or whatsoever. the aged mentality of wanting to be “other than asian” is but a lost tradition still making its way through our beliefs, our paradigm. talking about lost, do we feel exactly where we are as a people? we are not lagging behind. we are actually not moving, still stuck from yesterday’s false dreams. Filipinos are filipinos, and we should be proud of it, period.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ randomguru

    Juan Carlos: True. Filipinos should be proud of their heritage and culture. We are definitely very unique with various influences. Though, I feel our unique-ness sometimes confuses some Filipinos, especially those having an identity crisis of sorts, especially if caught between two different cultures.

    Personally, I have felt that I was Indian in my past life, or Tibetan.

  • http://carlosrull.com randomguru

    Juan Carlos: True. Filipinos should be proud of their heritage and culture. We are definitely very unique with various influences. Though, I feel our unique-ness sometimes confuses some Filipinos, especially those having an identity crisis of sorts, especially if caught between two different cultures.

    Personally, I have felt that I was Indian in my past life, or Tibetan.

  • Christine

    yeah…we should be proud of our culture and heritage…and why does it matters if we are Asians…Filipino race is a mixture, we come from different races because of inter-marriages. I look like an Indian girl too with some people asking me if I have Indian ancestry because of my round dark eyes but my nose not that much pointed…anywhere in the world Filipinos rule.

  • Christine

    yeah…we should be proud of our culture and heritage…and why does it matters if we are Asians…Filipino race is a mixture, we come from different races because of inter-marriages. I look like an Indian girl too with some people asking me if I have Indian ancestry because of my round dark eyes but my nose not that much pointed…anywhere in the world Filipinos rule.

  • CaliStunna

    Indians are Asian….

    No one is saying that it matters most that Filipinos are known as Asian, but the point is Filipinos can and are considered as Asian.

    A lot of people seem to say Filipinos are unique, but I think Asians are all unique in their own way. There are many mixtures of Asians, especially in SE ASIA.

    Again, I think it’s because people only see ASIA = EAST ASIA…they become oblivious towards the history and cultures found throughout Asia.

  • CaliStunna

    Indians are Asian….

    No one is saying that it matters most that Filipinos are known as Asian, but the point is Filipinos can and are considered as Asian.

    A lot of people seem to say Filipinos are unique, but I think Asians are all unique in their own way. There are many mixtures of Asians, especially in SE ASIA.

    Again, I think it’s because people only see ASIA = EAST ASIA…they become oblivious towards the history and cultures found throughout Asia.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ randomguru

    Christine: Thank you for your thoughts… what make Filipinos unique is our mixture of European and Asian ancestry… from Spanish to Malaysian, Indonesian, Indian and Chinese and Taiwanese.

    And our cuisine is the perfect example of fusion cooking (Chinese, Spanish, etc), yet still uniquely identifiable as Filipino Cuisine.

  • http://carlosrull.com randomguru

    Christine: Thank you for your thoughts… what make Filipinos unique is our mixture of European and Asian ancestry… from Spanish to Malaysian, Indonesian, Indian and Chinese and Taiwanese.

    And our cuisine is the perfect example of fusion cooking (Chinese, Spanish, etc), yet still uniquely identifiable as Filipino Cuisine.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ randomguru

    CaliStunna: Thank you. Well said… the fact that the Philippines is a member of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) acknowledges the fact that other Asian countries recognize The Philippines as an Asian country as well.

    But like you mentioned, all Asians are unique in their own ways.

  • http://carlosrull.com randomguru

    CaliStunna: Thank you. Well said… the fact that the Philippines is a member of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) acknowledges the fact that other Asian countries recognize The Philippines as an Asian country as well.

    But like you mentioned, all Asians are unique in their own ways.

  • Snow

    um sorry but taiwanese cannot be reffered to as a race but when it comes to lang. then it’s ok…. and no I have nothing against taiwan cause my parents are from there…

  • Snow

    um sorry but taiwanese cannot be reffered to as a race but when it comes to lang. then it’s ok…. and no I have nothing against taiwan cause my parents are from there…

  • Andres

    This article proves nothing. All technicalities..yea yea Philippines is near Asia and all that so what? Any one can just pull off information on anything. Who dictates whether or not filipinos are asian anyway? Indians are technically Asian too but they’re not really ‘Asian’. Filipinos are very different from all the other asian countries. For example all Asian countries use some kind of character based alphabet. Philippines uses an alphabet very similar to the Spanish alphabet. Culturally flipinos are closer to hispanics. Up until recently spanish was a required language to learn. Does any other asian countries have that? Just look at the language, food, and culture in general there really is not much trace of Asian in there..I am Mexican and my best friend is filipino so I have noticed many similarities in culture and tradition. There wouldn’t even be any arguments over this if the phlippines was closer to south America. Yea geographically the Philippines is in Asia but so is India. That’s about the only thing Asian about the Philippines..

  • Andres

    This article proves nothing. All technicalities..yea yea Philippines is near Asia and all that so what? Any one can just pull off information on anything. Who dictates whether or not filipinos are asian anyway? Indians are technically Asian too but they’re not really ‘Asian’. Filipinos are very different from all the other asian countries. For example all Asian countries use some kind of character based alphabet. Philippines uses an alphabet very similar to the Spanish alphabet. Culturally flipinos are closer to hispanics. Up until recently spanish was a required language to learn. Does any other asian countries have that? Just look at the language, food, and culture in general there really is not much trace of Asian in there..I am Mexican and my best friend is filipino so I have noticed many similarities in culture and tradition. There wouldn’t even be any arguments over this if the phlippines was closer to south America. Yea geographically the Philippines is in Asia but so is India. That’s about the only thing Asian about the Philippines..

  • http://carlosrull.com/ randomguru

    Andres: Your comments prove that an article like that which I’ve written is important for Filipinos, in order to straighten out the real information.

    Why then, is the Philippines a part of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations? It’s simply because the Philippines immediate neighbors are Asian countries and they are part of an important organization that serves Southeast Asia.

    Indians ARE Asian, and it’s a fact that people in the United Kingdom consider Indians Asian and people from China and Japan Far Easterners or Orientals.

    Filipino food is very influenced by Chinese food, but also has Spanish influences. It’s those unique differences that set the Philippines apart yet is still a part of Southeast Asia.

    If you look at the cultures of Indonesia and Malaysia you’ll find that it is similar to the Philippines.

    Perhaps your thinking is that only ethnicities that have a character based alphabet like Japan, China and South Korea are the real Asians, then that is your opinion. And that is specifically why this article was written. To shed light on the fact that there are other Asians out there too… namely South Asia, and Southeast Asia. The Philippines has always been a part of ASEAN, and has always been considered a Southeast Asian country.

    Why would anyone want to prove otherwise? Basically, because there are people out there who are prejudiced and racist toward Filipinos, and would like to make some racist excuse to say they aren’t a part of their group of people.

    And THAT is the main reason behind this very article. Equality amongst Asians.

  • http://carlosrull.com randomguru

    Andres: Your comments prove that an article like that which I’ve written is important for Filipinos, in order to straighten out the real information.

    Why then, is the Philippines a part of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations? It’s simply because the Philippines immediate neighbors are Asian countries and they are part of an important organization that serves Southeast Asia.

    Indians ARE Asian, and it’s a fact that people in the United Kingdom consider Indians Asian and people from China and Japan Far Easterners or Orientals.

    Filipino food is very influenced by Chinese food, but also has Spanish influences. It’s those unique differences that set the Philippines apart yet is still a part of Southeast Asia.

    If you look at the cultures of Indonesia and Malaysia you’ll find that it is similar to the Philippines.

    Perhaps your thinking is that only ethnicities that have a character based alphabet like Japan, China and South Korea are the real Asians, then that is your opinion. And that is specifically why this article was written. To shed light on the fact that there are other Asians out there too… namely South Asia, and Southeast Asia. The Philippines has always been a part of ASEAN, and has always been considered a Southeast Asian country.

    Why would anyone want to prove otherwise? Basically, because there are people out there who are prejudiced and racist toward Filipinos, and would like to make some racist excuse to say they aren’t a part of their group of people.

    And THAT is the main reason behind this very article. Equality amongst Asians.

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  • Anonymous

    Canada is in North AMERICA, does that make them Americans?

  • Anonymous

    Canada is in North AMERICA, does that make them Americans?

  • Anonymous

    Filipinos are not Asians. They all have Spanish last names and their language sounds nasty. Their written language spells everything based on sound, and it looks like a mess. On the SATs, they have their own bubble that is not categorized with “Asian”. They only claim to be Asian when Asians are recognized for something good, otherwise they claim to be Pacific islanders. The Philippines is in an identity-crisis, and need to get nuked.

  • Anonymous

    Filipinos are not Asians. They all have Spanish last names and their language sounds nasty. Their written language spells everything based on sound, and it looks like a mess. On the SATs, they have their own bubble that is not categorized with “Asian”. They only claim to be Asian when Asians are recognized for something good, otherwise they claim to be Pacific islanders. The Philippines is in an identity-crisis, and need to get nuked.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ randomguru

    Latinos in America have Spanish last names. But they are Americans. So your point doesn’t really make sense. Filipinos with Spanish last names simply makes them more unique than other Asians because they have both European and Asian ancestry. ;o)

    Filipinos aren’t Pacific Islanders. You can’t call them that simply because they live on islands in the Pacific Ocean. Then Japanese should be called Pacific Islanders too. :o)

  • http://carlosrull.com randomguru

    Latinos in America have Spanish last names. But they are Americans. So your point doesn’t really make sense. Filipinos with Spanish last names simply makes them more unique than other Asians because they have both European and Asian ancestry. ;o)

    Filipinos aren’t Pacific Islanders. You can’t call them that simply because they live on islands in the Pacific Ocean. Then Japanese should be called Pacific Islanders too. :o)

  • Brian

    Thank you so much for writing this article. You are right. There are many Filipinos who questions themselves whether if they are Asians or Pacific Islanders. When I was a child, I have had always claimed myself as Pacific Islander. Not because I thought it sounded cool, but I didn’t know any better. As I grew older, I did some research about the country where I was born. And it has change my outlook of things. Now 26 yrs. old, I have always claimed myself as Asian.

    On second note, I have been researching articles such as this one. I have concluded, that no matter who you are or what race you are from, there is always that one ignorant person who has to put others down so that it makes them feel more superior. I find it comical because they are so worried about other people’s cultur, and that they feel they need to degrade it because they can’t really say anything nice about their own.

    The ignorance within them comes out making them seem really uneducated when it comes to knowing one’s race or ethnicity. I am pretty sure that after I submit this comment. There will be that person who we all love so much of.

    Thanks again for this article. It has lifted my spirit up. Thank you and God bless…

  • Brian

    Thank you so much for writing this article. You are right. There are many Filipinos who questions themselves whether if they are Asians or Pacific Islanders. When I was a child, I have had always claimed myself as Pacific Islander. Not because I thought it sounded cool, but I didn’t know any better. As I grew older, I did some research about the country where I was born. And it has change my outlook of things. Now 26 yrs. old, I have always claimed myself as Asian.

    On second note, I have been researching articles such as this one. I have concluded, that no matter who you are or what race you are from, there is always that one ignorant person who has to put others down so that it makes them feel more superior. I find it comical because they are so worried about other people’s cultur, and that they feel they need to degrade it because they can’t really say anything nice about their own.

    The ignorance within them comes out making them seem really uneducated when it comes to knowing one’s race or ethnicity. I am pretty sure that after I submit this comment. There will be that person who we all love so much of.

    Thanks again for this article. It has lifted my spirit up. Thank you and God bless…

  • rickytan

    the majority filipino’s still look more like pacific islanders to me… more like hawaiians or samoans (like mini samoans).. if you look the the map of the world (except for the america’s) the look of people is gradual… have you guys ever noticed that??

  • rickytan

    the majority filipino’s still look more like pacific islanders to me… more like hawaiians or samoans (like mini samoans).. if you look the the map of the world (except for the america’s) the look of people is gradual… have you guys ever noticed that??

  • Sunhee

    I just wanna comment on what Andres said that
    “Filipinos are very different from all the other asian countries. because all Asian countries use some kind of character based alphabet. While Philippines uses an alphabet very similar to the Spanish alphabet.”
    For your informantion Andres just like any other countries in asia Filipinos too has their own sets of character based alphabet called “Alibata” .

  • Sunhee

    I just wanna comment on what Andres said that
    “Filipinos are very different from all the other asian countries. because all Asian countries use some kind of character based alphabet. While Philippines uses an alphabet very similar to the Spanish alphabet.”
    For your informantion Andres just like any other countries in asia Filipinos too has their own sets of character based alphabet called “Alibata” .

  • http://www.neetstyle.com/ Darren

    Good article randomguru. I’ve taken a number of Asian American classes that cover this subject and a lot of what you have said is very relevant and credible. Loved how you touched up on the APA and choices available for various public sponsored forms people needed to fill out. Before, definitely affected this social facade.

    Most of the comments above are completely laughable. Especially the ones deterring the reference-ability of Wikipedia. If only they took sometime to do their own research before posting apathetic comments like, “I stopped reading as soon as I saw your 2nd or 3rd reference to wikipedia.” Sometimes I wonder if people even know how Wikipedia really works or do they just think it’s some incredible place that anyone can edit?

    I also REALLY appreciated the troll comment left by an anonymous on how, “Filipinos only claim to be Asian when Asians are recognized for something good, otherwise they claim to be Pacific Islanders…”

    Despite a comment being left by a troll it still had some truth to it.

    Again, I know it’s a little late but, great post nevertheless.

  • http://www.neetstyle.com Darren

    Good article randomguru. I’ve taken a number of Asian American classes that cover this subject and a lot of what you have said is very relevant and credible. Loved how you touched up on the APA and choices available for various public sponsored forms people needed to fill out. Before, definitely affected this social facade.

    Most of the comments above are completely laughable. Especially the ones deterring the reference-ability of Wikipedia. If only they took sometime to do their own research before posting apathetic comments like, “I stopped reading as soon as I saw your 2nd or 3rd reference to wikipedia.” Sometimes I wonder if people even know how Wikipedia really works or do they just think it’s some incredible place that anyone can edit?

    I also REALLY appreciated the troll comment left by an anonymous on how, “Filipinos only claim to be Asian when Asians are recognized for something good, otherwise they claim to be Pacific Islanders…”

    Despite a comment being left by a troll it still had some truth to it.

    Again, I know it’s a little late but, great post nevertheless.

  • Anonymous

    hi hater!

  • Anonymous

    hi hater!

  • http://carlosrull.com/ Randomguru

    Sorry, there are no haters here. Peace and Love to you. Hope you have a better day. :o)

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    Sorry, there are no haters here. Peace and Love to you. Hope you have a better day. :o)

  • wow

    these haters are so smart

    for the last name arguement -
    did you seriously think that every korean just happened to be related and have the last name kim, park, etc.
    its called last name was a european thing
    the same way that people just made up their last names in japan
    filipinos were given last names by the spanish

    filipinos look like pacific islanders -
    OMFG are you stupid
    did you think they just popped up there ?
    where the fuck do you think pacific islanders are from ?
    they are pacific islanders because they are too fucking far from asia dick head

    india is asia to-
    omfg INDIA IS A SUB CONTINENT OF ASIA
    thats why it can count as another area

    nothing asian about philippines -
    have you fucks even been to the philippines
    im pretty fucking sure the only philippines you people have heard of
    are from the fil-ams that have never been to the philipines

    - we eat fucking rice bitch
    - we have rice patties
    - we use soy sauce
    - our eyes are slanted
    - we eat things that show up in fear factor
    - just cause we dont get asked if we’re chinese doesn’t mean were not asian

    you know what
    people hate the fact that filipinos are asian
    because
    -our dicks arent small
    -we get girls

    have a nice day

    oh and one last note
    why is there always some video of some ugly virgin asian boy
    saying that filipinos arent asian
    just cause we get laid doesn’t mean were not asian

  • wow

    these haters are so smart

    for the last name arguement -
    did you seriously think that every korean just happened to be related and have the last name kim, park, etc.
    its called last name was a european thing
    the same way that people just made up their last names in japan
    filipinos were given last names by the spanish

    filipinos look like pacific islanders -
    OMFG are you stupid
    did you think they just popped up there ?
    where the fuck do you think pacific islanders are from ?
    they are pacific islanders because they are too fucking far from asia dick head

    india is asia to-
    omfg INDIA IS A SUB CONTINENT OF ASIA
    thats why it can count as another area

    nothing asian about philippines -
    have you fucks even been to the philippines
    im pretty fucking sure the only philippines you people have heard of
    are from the fil-ams that have never been to the philipines

    - we eat fucking rice bitch
    - we have rice patties
    - we use soy sauce
    - our eyes are slanted
    - we eat things that show up in fear factor
    - just cause we dont get asked if we’re chinese doesn’t mean were not asian

    you know what
    people hate the fact that filipinos are asian
    because
    -our dicks arent small
    -we get girls

    have a nice day

    oh and one last note
    why is there always some video of some ugly virgin asian boy
    saying that filipinos arent asian
    just cause we get laid doesn’t mean were not asian

  • wow

    omg i cant believe i missed this

    canada is a part of north america
    does that make them americans

    wow i think this person actualy thought they were smart

    people that live in the united states call themselves americans

    because its fucking awkward to say united states citizen

    and for the record
    no
    a canadian person wouldnt be an american
    they’d be in the classification of
    continent -north american
    specifically canadian

    same way that

    chinese are
    continent – asia
    specifically chinese

    filipinos
    continent – asia
    specifically filipino

  • wow

    omg i cant believe i missed this

    canada is a part of north america
    does that make them americans

    wow i think this person actualy thought they were smart

    people that live in the united states call themselves americans

    because its fucking awkward to say united states citizen

    and for the record
    no
    a canadian person wouldnt be an american
    they’d be in the classification of
    continent -north american
    specifically canadian

    same way that

    chinese are
    continent – asia
    specifically chinese

    filipinos
    continent – asia
    specifically filipino

  • Anonymous

    Well your right, Filipinos dont look asian(some of them) and come to think of it their customs are closer to Spanish and Latino. But their geography is located near asia therefore they claim to be asian

  • Anonymous

    Well your right, Filipinos dont look asian(some of them) and come to think of it their customs are closer to Spanish and Latino. But their geography is located near asia therefore they claim to be asian

  • chibii28

    no offense andres , but your comment on this one … is just plainly nonsense … in some cases , yes , we have similarities but we can’t be considered latinos . (not being racist) first of all , just because the spaniards conquered us , doesn’t really mean to say we only have spanish ancestry .. before the spaniards came and conquered the philippines , we already had trading relationships with china , malaysia , indonesia , indians , arabs , etc. and through inter-marriage , our ancestors are ASIANS ! not all of us may have spanish blood but surely all filipinos have at least either chinese , malaysian , indonesian , indian or arabian – native filipino ancestors . so therefore making us different from hispanics and more close to being asian .. and if you didn’t know , the only reason why we don’t have a character based alphabet like the chinese , koreans , and japanese people do is because of the SPANIARDS !!! Filipinos , before the spaniards came , wrote in a character based alphabet which is very similar to the writing system of the indonesians called ALIBATA ! actually it is still used by i think three groups in the philippines … i know one of them is the tagbanuas .. and the only reason why we don’t use it anymore is because the spaniards did not approve of it … they were suspicious and worried that through this system of writing , filipinos were plotting a rebellion against them … just because we don’t have single eyelids or a character based alphabet or yellowish skin , we can’t be called asians ? our ancestors are from asia so therefore we are asians ! fil-ams are tell everybody that filipinos are pacific islanders because they pretty much never studied PHILIPPINE HISTORY and probably have no clue that the philippines is a member of ASEAN … if we are pacific islanders , then we shouldn’t be in that organization at all ! ask anybody in the philippines if they consider themselves as pacific islanders , i bet you they’ll just laugh and make fun of you because they don’t know what the hell you’re talking about . oh and if we are considered pacific islanders because we are detached from the mainland , shouldn’t japan be as well ? that contradicts every description about pacific islanders !!! tan skinned , double eyelids and use the alphabet ..

    FILIPINOS ARE ASIANS ! whether you like it or not !!!

  • chibii28

    no offense andres , but your comment on this one … is just plainly nonsense … in some cases , yes , we have similarities but we can’t be considered latinos . (not being racist) first of all , just because the spaniards conquered us , doesn’t really mean to say we only have spanish ancestry .. before the spaniards came and conquered the philippines , we already had trading relationships with china , malaysia , indonesia , indians , arabs , etc. and through inter-marriage , our ancestors are ASIANS ! not all of us may have spanish blood but surely all filipinos have at least either chinese , malaysian , indonesian , indian or arabian – native filipino ancestors . so therefore making us different from hispanics and more close to being asian .. and if you didn’t know , the only reason why we don’t have a character based alphabet like the chinese , koreans , and japanese people do is because of the SPANIARDS !!! Filipinos , before the spaniards came , wrote in a character based alphabet which is very similar to the writing system of the indonesians called ALIBATA ! actually it is still used by i think three groups in the philippines … i know one of them is the tagbanuas .. and the only reason why we don’t use it anymore is because the spaniards did not approve of it … they were suspicious and worried that through this system of writing , filipinos were plotting a rebellion against them … just because we don’t have single eyelids or a character based alphabet or yellowish skin , we can’t be called asians ? our ancestors are from asia so therefore we are asians ! fil-ams are tell everybody that filipinos are pacific islanders because they pretty much never studied PHILIPPINE HISTORY and probably have no clue that the philippines is a member of ASEAN … if we are pacific islanders , then we shouldn’t be in that organization at all ! ask anybody in the philippines if they consider themselves as pacific islanders , i bet you they’ll just laugh and make fun of you because they don’t know what the hell you’re talking about . oh and if we are considered pacific islanders because we are detached from the mainland , shouldn’t japan be as well ? that contradicts every description about pacific islanders !!! tan skinned , double eyelids and use the alphabet ..

    FILIPINOS ARE ASIANS ! whether you like it or not !!!

  • Filipinos are SE ASIAN

    For those people who don’t think “FILIPINOS look ASIAN”….you can learn about SE ASIA right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVgUP6ihgt0

  • Filipinos are SE ASIAN

    For those people who don’t think “FILIPINOS look ASIAN”….you can learn about SE ASIA right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVgUP6ihgt0

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  • Jograd

    I think we have a deeper connection between latin america and the Philippines. There, we are more accepted as “latinos” than other “asians” considering us as asians. Big relief because i dont want to be classified with the chinese because we are not as naive as them. Culturally we are as free-spirited as the latinos. Here in germany, I have more latino friends than asians because we can blend in easily while the so-called asians cry because they cant get any foreign friends.

  • Jograd

    I think we have a deeper connection between latin america and the Philippines. There, we are more accepted as “latinos” than other “asians” considering us as asians. Big relief because i dont want to be classified with the chinese because we are not as naive as them. Culturally we are as free-spirited as the latinos. Here in germany, I have more latino friends than asians because we can blend in easily while the so-called asians cry because they cant get any foreign friends.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ Randomguru

    The Philippines is no doubt a fusion of Spanish, Chinese, Malaysian, Indonesian and American culture. I think that is what truly makes us unique as a country and as a people.

    Once again, I wrote this set of articles to educate many Filipinos who grew up abroad (like myself) and may have an identity crisis as to who they are and their roots.

    We definitely have a very strong Spanish influence based on culture and religion, etc… we are also central to Southeast Asia and the Orient. That is a fact that if you are going to deny, then you are simply misguided or are living in a fantasy world.

    Here’s what the Philippines “official” government website has to say about The Philippines:

    “THE PHILIPPINES stands at the crossroads of the developed western world and the Orient. It lies in the heart of Southeast Asia, stretching more than 1,840 kilometers. Composed of 7,107 islands, the Philippines is readily accessible to the different capitals of the world. Its three main islands are Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao.

    The South China Sea washes its western shores. Taiwan, China and Hong Kong are northern neighbors and further north is Japan. To the west lie Southeast Asian countries such as Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand. An arm of the archipelago reaches out towards Borneo and at its feet stands the chain of Indonesian islands. To the east and south, the waters of the Pacific Ocean sweep its headlands, looking out towards Micronesia and Polynesia.

    Its unique location has made the Philippines the commercial, cultural and intellectual hub of Asia from the dawn of history.”

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    The Philippines is no doubt a fusion of Spanish, Chinese, Malaysian, Indonesian and American culture. I think that is what truly makes us unique as a country and as a people.

    Once again, I wrote this set of articles to educate many Filipinos who grew up abroad (like myself) and may have an identity crisis as to who they are and their roots.

    We definitely have a very strong Spanish influence based on culture and religion, etc… we are also central to Southeast Asia and the Orient. That is a fact that if you are going to deny, then you are simply misguided or are living in a fantasy world.

    Here’s what the Philippines “official” government website has to say about The Philippines:

    “THE PHILIPPINES stands at the crossroads of the developed western world and the Orient. It lies in the heart of Southeast Asia, stretching more than 1,840 kilometers. Composed of 7,107 islands, the Philippines is readily accessible to the different capitals of the world. Its three main islands are Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao.

    The South China Sea washes its western shores. Taiwan, China and Hong Kong are northern neighbors and further north is Japan. To the west lie Southeast Asian countries such as Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand. An arm of the archipelago reaches out towards Borneo and at its feet stands the chain of Indonesian islands. To the east and south, the waters of the Pacific Ocean sweep its headlands, looking out towards Micronesia and Polynesia.

    Its unique location has made the Philippines the commercial, cultural and intellectual hub of Asia from the dawn of history.”

  • CaliStunna818

    “I think we have a deeper connection between latin america and the Philippines. There, we are more accepted as “latinos” than other “asians” considering us as asians. Big relief because i dont want to be classified with the chinese because we are not as naive as them. Culturally we are as free-spirited as the latinos. Here in germany, I have more latino friends than asians because we can blend in easily while the so-called asians cry because they cant get any foreign friends. ”

    Cry me a river Professor Dick. Newsflash, ASIANS are not all Chinese. It’s probably because you want to fit in with the “LATINOS” and that’s all you know.

    I’d rather have ASIAN friends than a pathetic self-hating racist like yourself.

  • CaliStunna818

    “I think we have a deeper connection between latin america and the Philippines. There, we are more accepted as “latinos” than other “asians” considering us as asians. Big relief because i dont want to be classified with the chinese because we are not as naive as them. Culturally we are as free-spirited as the latinos. Here in germany, I have more latino friends than asians because we can blend in easily while the so-called asians cry because they cant get any foreign friends. ”

    Cry me a river Professor Dick. Newsflash, ASIANS are not all Chinese. It’s probably because you want to fit in with the “LATINOS” and that’s all you know.

    I’d rather have ASIAN friends than a pathetic self-hating racist like yourself.

  • Mike

    I’m Japanese. I live in hawaii and there are alot of japanese/chinese/korean/ vietnamese. The filipinos dont blend in with “what we think of as asians.” 99% of the filipinos look south pacific ancestry. They are just geographically in asia, but they look more like micronesian, palauan, austranesian, indonesian. There are exceptionlike anything else, but filipinos cant pass for asians because of their different features. You can call them asians, but technically they are not. For example, look at russia. Russia is also geographically in asia, but is more genetically like europeans. You can call russians asians, but they are technically not. It ‘s just as funny for a russian to call themselves asian, just like a filipino taking credit for the intellectual development of a honda car. I just think we need to stop making incongruent assumptions. Just because filipinos eat rice it doesnt mean they are asian. My white friend eats rice also, and I eat french bread. Independent genetics tests cannot possibly link filipinos to koreans. That was propably published by a filipino who wanted badly to be asian. “I guess I’m genetically norwegian then because I eat bread and I travelled there.” Filipinos are just denying themselves of the truth.

  • Mike

    I’m Japanese. I live in hawaii and there are alot of japanese/chinese/korean/ vietnamese. The filipinos dont blend in with “what we think of as asians.” 99% of the filipinos look south pacific ancestry. They are just geographically in asia, but they look more like micronesian, palauan, austranesian, indonesian. There are exceptionlike anything else, but filipinos cant pass for asians because of their different features. You can call them asians, but technically they are not. For example, look at russia. Russia is also geographically in asia, but is more genetically like europeans. You can call russians asians, but they are technically not. It ‘s just as funny for a russian to call themselves asian, just like a filipino taking credit for the intellectual development of a honda car. I just think we need to stop making incongruent assumptions. Just because filipinos eat rice it doesnt mean they are asian. My white friend eats rice also, and I eat french bread. Independent genetics tests cannot possibly link filipinos to koreans. That was propably published by a filipino who wanted badly to be asian. “I guess I’m genetically norwegian then because I eat bread and I travelled there.” Filipinos are just denying themselves of the truth.

  • CaliStunna818

    LOL they look more like Indonesian? So …Indonesians aren’t Asian now? hahahaha! I’m sorry but “Hawaii” doesn’t represent Asia and is not Asia.

    Russia is actually part of both EUROPE and ASIA. The history books talk about EURASIA. Simple as that.

    “just like a filipino taking credit for the intellectual development of a honda car ” just like a Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, Laos, Thai, Hmong, Malaysian, Indonesian taking credit for the intellectual development of a Honda car right?

    Ya so what, a lot of white people eat SUSHI…what’s your point?

  • CaliStunna818

    LOL they look more like Indonesian? So …Indonesians aren’t Asian now? hahahaha! I’m sorry but “Hawaii” doesn’t represent Asia and is not Asia.

    Russia is actually part of both EUROPE and ASIA. The history books talk about EURASIA. Simple as that.

    “just like a filipino taking credit for the intellectual development of a honda car ” just like a Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, Laos, Thai, Hmong, Malaysian, Indonesian taking credit for the intellectual development of a Honda car right?

    Ya so what, a lot of white people eat SUSHI…what’s your point?

  • http://carlosrull.com/ Randomguru

    Mike: if i am wrong then you need to start writing letters to the U.S. Census Bureau because they are stating specifically that Filipinos are Asian in all of their statistics. That was the whole reasoning behind this uncovering the truth, based only on facts and general consensus. And it’s people like you that have given me the reason to write these articles.

    anyway, just because you are japanese doesn’t give you the authority to tell anyone whether filipinos are asian or not.

    sure, russians are on the continent of asia but are considered more european, genetically. but, my friend, the philippines is not only in Southeast Asia, though the culture and people have been strongly influenced by Spain and the United States, there is a strong Chinese influence as well as a Malaysian and Indonesian influence. and so far no one has said that Malaysians and Indonesians aren’t Asian, so my thinking is that any negative remarks against Filipinos and denying their status as Asians is bordering on racism and prejudice.

    and Pacific Islanders came from Austronesians (Southeast China, Taiwan and the Philippines) and NOT the other way around!

    i think a lot of the confusion about Filipinos being Pacific Islanders came from the fact that Filipinos settled in Pacific Island nations like Guam, Hawaii, etc…

    Japan is a group of Islands in the Pacific. So why aren’t they called Pacific Islanders? It’s the same reason that the Philippines shouldn’t be called a Pacific Islander nation because they are a part of Asia.

    and let’s not forget the people of India. definitely have been called Asian for the longest time. Singapore? Thailand?

    once again. i challenge you to write to the U.S. Census Bureau and tell them they are wrong for identifying Filipinos as Asians.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    Mike: if i am wrong then you need to start writing letters to the U.S. Census Bureau because they are stating specifically that Filipinos are Asian in all of their statistics. That was the whole reasoning behind this uncovering the truth, based only on facts and general consensus. And it’s people like you that have given me the reason to write these articles.

    anyway, just because you are japanese doesn’t give you the authority to tell anyone whether filipinos are asian or not.

    sure, russians are on the continent of asia but are considered more european, genetically. but, my friend, the philippines is not only in Southeast Asia, though the culture and people have been strongly influenced by Spain and the United States, there is a strong Chinese influence as well as a Malaysian and Indonesian influence. and so far no one has said that Malaysians and Indonesians aren’t Asian, so my thinking is that any negative remarks against Filipinos and denying their status as Asians is bordering on racism and prejudice.

    and Pacific Islanders came from Austronesians (Southeast China, Taiwan and the Philippines) and NOT the other way around!

    i think a lot of the confusion about Filipinos being Pacific Islanders came from the fact that Filipinos settled in Pacific Island nations like Guam, Hawaii, etc…

    Japan is a group of Islands in the Pacific. So why aren’t they called Pacific Islanders? It’s the same reason that the Philippines shouldn’t be called a Pacific Islander nation because they are a part of Asia.

    and let’s not forget the people of India. definitely have been called Asian for the longest time. Singapore? Thailand?

    once again. i challenge you to write to the U.S. Census Bureau and tell them they are wrong for identifying Filipinos as Asians.

  • Rick

    Filipinos gravitate towards pacific islanders in Hawaii. They live and go to the same schools. They all eat with their hands and look alike. I’m Chinese and think the filipino overuse the Chinese blood with them. I feel no connection to them. It all started from a misinterpretation saying that flips are Asian and now it’s gotten into a whole mess and caused alot deseperate Filipinos trying to be Asian. Why can’t they just be proud to be pacific islander. Go visit the phillipines and you’ll know instantly that their culture is a derivate of south pacific. Don’t listen to all this nonsense wiki proof. I was in the philipines and feltno connection to them. They should look elsewhere for the truth of their origin rather confusing their own people.

  • Rick

    Filipinos gravitate towards pacific islanders in Hawaii. They live and go to the same schools. They all eat with their hands and look alike. I’m Chinese and think the filipino overuse the Chinese blood with them. I feel no connection to them. It all started from a misinterpretation saying that flips are Asian and now it’s gotten into a whole mess and caused alot deseperate Filipinos trying to be Asian. Why can’t they just be proud to be pacific islander. Go visit the phillipines and you’ll know instantly that their culture is a derivate of south pacific. Don’t listen to all this nonsense wiki proof. I was in the philipines and feltno connection to them. They should look elsewhere for the truth of their origin rather confusing their own people.

  • A

    Filipinos gravitate towards pacific islanders in Hawaii. They live and go to the same schools. They all eat with their hands and look alike. I’m Chinese and think the filipino overuse the Chinese blood with them. I feel no connection to them. It all started from a misinterpretation saying that flips are Asian and now it’s gotten into a whole mess and caused alot deseperate Filipinos trying to be Asian. Why can’t they just be proud to be pacific islander. Go visit the phillipines and you’ll know instantly that their culture is a derivate of south pacific. Don’t listen to all this nonsense wiki proof. I was in the philipines and feltno connection to them. They should look elsewhere for the truth of their origin rather confusing their own people.

  • A

    Filipinos gravitate towards pacific islanders in Hawaii. They live and go to the same schools. They all eat with their hands and look alike. I’m Chinese and think the filipino overuse the Chinese blood with them. I feel no connection to them. It all started from a misinterpretation saying that flips are Asian and now it’s gotten into a whole mess and caused alot deseperate Filipinos trying to be Asian. Why can’t they just be proud to be pacific islander. Go visit the phillipines and you’ll know instantly that their culture is a derivate of south pacific. Don’t listen to all this nonsense wiki proof. I was in the philipines and feltno connection to them. They should look elsewhere for the truth of their origin rather confusing their own people.

  • Darren

    lol. These comments can’t be real.

    Filipino’s = Asians. That’s it, end of story. Legalities, racial history, cross government identification, international recognition. They are asian, period.

    I’m convinced people who keep posting that they’re not are just trolling the site. It’s not possible for people to be this ignorant.

  • Darren

    lol. These comments can’t be real.

    Filipino’s = Asians. That’s it, end of story. Legalities, racial history, cross government identification, international recognition. They are asian, period.

    I’m convinced people who keep posting that they’re not are just trolling the site. It’s not possible for people to be this ignorant.

  • Empress

    We are not calling you pacific islanders because you are an island in the pacific. We are calling you pacific islanders because your culture and ancestry mostly resemble people of pacific island austranesian(palauan micronesia, guam) descent. Dont take the word ” pacific island literally.” That argument of why not calling japan pacific islanders because they are an island is an uneducated argument. Please show more analytical skills in this forum.

    Just because phillipines is part of the ASEAN…does not make them asian. I am a heterosexual and is part of the GSA(Gay Straight Alliance). Does this affiliation make me gay then? Again, dont take words literally. This is a big incongruent assumption. One advice….dont conclude based on assumption.

    Ive been to the phillipines and it is nothing like asia.

    Someone also mentioned that filipinos have the 2nd highest income in the USA. When you look at the details it will tell you otherwise. I’m not here to ridicule filipinos but to clear up things.

    This forum is full of misleading stuff. If you walk away from this forum thinking that filipinos are asian…you are hiding the truth.

  • Empress

    We are not calling you pacific islanders because you are an island in the pacific. We are calling you pacific islanders because your culture and ancestry mostly resemble people of pacific island austranesian(palauan micronesia, guam) descent. Dont take the word ” pacific island literally.” That argument of why not calling japan pacific islanders because they are an island is an uneducated argument. Please show more analytical skills in this forum.

    Just because phillipines is part of the ASEAN…does not make them asian. I am a heterosexual and is part of the GSA(Gay Straight Alliance). Does this affiliation make me gay then? Again, dont take words literally. This is a big incongruent assumption. One advice….dont conclude based on assumption.

    Ive been to the phillipines and it is nothing like asia.

    Someone also mentioned that filipinos have the 2nd highest income in the USA. When you look at the details it will tell you otherwise. I’m not here to ridicule filipinos but to clear up things.

    This forum is full of misleading stuff. If you walk away from this forum thinking that filipinos are asian…you are hiding the truth.

  • Choco

    filipinos do not call themselves pacific islanders because they dispersed out to guam and hawaii. There are alot of japanese in hawaii and they dont call themselves “islanders.” I think people should go visit the phillipines and the pacific islands themselves….and see for themselves if filipinos resemble the chinese more than the palauan/guam. In hawaii the majority of filipinos live in the same neighborhood as pacific islanders. I wonder why?

    It’s so weird because palauan people and guamanian people should be able to call themselves asians also.

  • Choco

    filipinos do not call themselves pacific islanders because they dispersed out to guam and hawaii. There are alot of japanese in hawaii and they dont call themselves “islanders.” I think people should go visit the phillipines and the pacific islands themselves….and see for themselves if filipinos resemble the chinese more than the palauan/guam. In hawaii the majority of filipinos live in the same neighborhood as pacific islanders. I wonder why?

    It’s so weird because palauan people and guamanian people should be able to call themselves asians also.

  • Patrick

    Empress: “ive been to the phillipines and it is nothing like asia.”

    Are you shitting me? The philippines looks very much like Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and every other southeast asian country. The dances are similar, the food is similar, the languages are similar.

    How can you say it looks nothing like asia, when the people are of similar cultures?

  • Patrick

    Empress: “ive been to the phillipines and it is nothing like asia.”

    Are you shitting me? The philippines looks very much like Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and every other southeast asian country. The dances are similar, the food is similar, the languages are similar.

    How can you say it looks nothing like asia, when the people are of similar cultures?

  • Empress

    OMG. I dont think patrick has been to SE asia. The dances and food is similar?

    First of all Dances and similar foods does not make you genetically similar to another race. Second, Vietnamese food is nothing like filipinos, and their dance is extremely different. You might be right about Indonesia and with south Malaysia(excluding Singapore). In singapore, the filipino group are among the most looked down segragated upon. Stop using superficial things like food and dances to claim someone asian….let’s look at real evidence. People eat curry all over the world. HEllo. Wake UP. Breakdancing is all over the owrld….Hello wake up.

    I dont think Patrick has explored SE Asian extensively. Vietnam’s culture and society is far from the philipines. They are majority buddhist with confusian values….etc…etc. I challenge all of you in this forum to explore SE Asia. You’ll come to the same conclusion that filipinos are more like palauan micronesian with a mix of other things.

    The chinese community in the philipines are very racist against “real filipinos”. Ive been there and seen it. Just because there is a small chinese community does not make the whole population asian. There is chinese communities all over the world and surely other countires dont claim to be asian.

    Go visit Phillipines. It will bring the truth out.

  • Empress

    OMG. I dont think patrick has been to SE asia. The dances and food is similar?

    First of all Dances and similar foods does not make you genetically similar to another race. Second, Vietnamese food is nothing like filipinos, and their dance is extremely different. You might be right about Indonesia and with south Malaysia(excluding Singapore). In singapore, the filipino group are among the most looked down segragated upon. Stop using superficial things like food and dances to claim someone asian….let’s look at real evidence. People eat curry all over the world. HEllo. Wake UP. Breakdancing is all over the owrld….Hello wake up.

    I dont think Patrick has explored SE Asian extensively. Vietnam’s culture and society is far from the philipines. They are majority buddhist with confusian values….etc…etc. I challenge all of you in this forum to explore SE Asia. You’ll come to the same conclusion that filipinos are more like palauan micronesian with a mix of other things.

    The chinese community in the philipines are very racist against “real filipinos”. Ive been there and seen it. Just because there is a small chinese community does not make the whole population asian. There is chinese communities all over the world and surely other countires dont claim to be asian.

    Go visit Phillipines. It will bring the truth out.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ Randomguru

    Empress: there is some much factual information saying Filipinos are Asian, that you are actually sounding quite irrational, and perhaps bordering on the racist side because your continual putting down of the Filipino people is pretty insulting.

    Filipinos are a unique blend of many cultures and people, that is true. Again, I ask you to take the matter up with the U.S. Census Bureau. And visit the Philippine government’s official website.

    And I’ve been to the Philippines several times. It has the same look and feel as any Southeast Asian country would.

    Besides, i can’t really take anyone seriously when they are hiding behind a fake name. Where’s your blog or your URL… you simply reek of TROLLness! :o)

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    Empress: there is some much factual information saying Filipinos are Asian, that you are actually sounding quite irrational, and perhaps bordering on the racist side because your continual putting down of the Filipino people is pretty insulting.

    Filipinos are a unique blend of many cultures and people, that is true. Again, I ask you to take the matter up with the U.S. Census Bureau. And visit the Philippine government’s official website.

    And I’ve been to the Philippines several times. It has the same look and feel as any Southeast Asian country would.

    Besides, i can’t really take anyone seriously when they are hiding behind a fake name. Where’s your blog or your URL… you simply reek of TROLLness! :o)

  • Empress

    Randomguru. It just shows you are more worried about my blog and superficial things rather than the real facts. If you visited SE Asia extensively , then how could you say it looks like any other se nation. Please…… Your judgment is very discredible if you think philipines look like vietnam or thailand…etc etc. You should not be taken seriously if that is your conculsion and judgment.

    I’m not racist. Im just blogging whatever I see in reality. Im not going to fight against nature and report otherwise. You keep on saying facts. but IVe not read one convincing fact yet except for food.

    Dont forget that ASEAN was created for econimic purposes, not because the filipinos are the same as other nations. You should take everything case by case instead of generalizing. Randomguru…. You need more experience in life.

  • Empress

    Randomguru. It just shows you are more worried about my blog and superficial things rather than the real facts. If you visited SE Asia extensively , then how could you say it looks like any other se nation. Please…… Your judgment is very discredible if you think philipines look like vietnam or thailand…etc etc. You should not be taken seriously if that is your conculsion and judgment.

    I’m not racist. Im just blogging whatever I see in reality. Im not going to fight against nature and report otherwise. You keep on saying facts. but IVe not read one convincing fact yet except for food.

    Dont forget that ASEAN was created for econimic purposes, not because the filipinos are the same as other nations. You should take everything case by case instead of generalizing. Randomguru…. You need more experience in life.

  • Darren

    Dear Empress (The Troll),

    What point are you trying to make again? I kind of lost your point in all of the self-opinionated, ignorant bull crap you’ve been writing.

  • Darren

    Dear Empress (The Troll),

    What point are you trying to make again? I kind of lost your point in all of the self-opinionated, ignorant bull crap you’ve been writing.

  • Empress

    I thought this forum was about ARE FILIPINOS ASIAN?. Everytime there is a naysayer..you guys call them ignorant..blah.blah. This kind of attitude is the reason why you guys willl never figure out that you are NOT asian.

    Darren. You sound ignorant and uneducated. I have no clue what your point is also. You dont even have a valid argument. This if a forum talking about ARE FLIPS Asian? We dont need to waste time with your useless opinion. Bring facts to the table instead of calling people “names”.

  • Empress

    I thought this forum was about ARE FILIPINOS ASIAN?. Everytime there is a naysayer..you guys call them ignorant..blah.blah. This kind of attitude is the reason why you guys willl never figure out that you are NOT asian.

    Darren. You sound ignorant and uneducated. I have no clue what your point is also. You dont even have a valid argument. This if a forum talking about ARE FLIPS Asian? We dont need to waste time with your useless opinion. Bring facts to the table instead of calling people “names”.

  • http://carlosrull.com/ Randomguru

    Empress: Bottom line is not all Asians look Japanese or Chinese. And Indians and Pakistanis are Asian as well. The Philippines and its people, being part of Southeast Asia, are similar in many ways to other Southeast Asian countries.

    Darren and Patrick brought up excellent points that really make the whole idea of Filipinos not being Asian quite ridiculous and assinine.

    Empress, at this point your comments are pretty insulting to us Filipinos. Whoever you are you apparently are here just to insult Filipinos and their culture and identity. You should be ashamed of yourself……

    Anyway, I feel enough’s been said here, that we are just going around in circles. So, comments for this article are closed.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    Empress: Bottom line is not all Asians look Japanese or Chinese. And Indians and Pakistanis are Asian as well. The Philippines and its people, being part of Southeast Asia, are similar in many ways to other Southeast Asian countries.

    Darren and Patrick brought up excellent points that really make the whole idea of Filipinos not being Asian quite ridiculous and assinine.

    Empress, at this point your comments are pretty insulting to us Filipinos. Whoever you are you apparently are here just to insult Filipinos and their culture and identity. You should be ashamed of yourself……

    Anyway, I feel enough’s been said here, that we are just going around in circles. So, comments for this article are closed.

  • Jessie

    Your research failed to examine the similarity of the tagalog language to the other polynesian languages. Our tagalog language don't even sound like any of the oriental languages. In fact, tagalog sounds similar to the hawaiian language with its emphasis on usage. I think you are trying to consider yourself as being chinese and you try to look for the chinese in you. Our nation consists of islands, over 7000 islands. We are islanders with brown skin, not yellow. The ancestors of the filipinos and polynesians are aetas. You have so much research garbage that you fail to examine what is in front of you. All the oriental nations have lighter skin than we do. We do not even have the same eyes as they do. Of course some of us have mixed heritage but the debate here is about the native filipinos. New Zealand is considered to be pacific islander and they are not even that far out into the pacific ocean. They are closer to australia. Is it because that we are closer to China that we can't call ourself pacific islander? When filipino americans label themselves as pacific islander it is because they relate more to that description. We are islanders and our nation reflect that. When you call yourself asian, you are in the same category as orientals. Do you feel oriental? Or do you want to be? Our features and tagalog languare is different from the oriental nation. You can't say outright that filipinos are so ignorant. It is you who wants to be chinese because you dislike your own darker brown islander skin.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    1. there is no way you can compare the Hawaiian language to Tagalog? where did that one come from. According to my research we are closer to Malay and Indonesia which is right in the heart of Southeast Asia. Maybe a little bit of Japanese and Chinese, not even remotely close to Hawaiian.

    “Tagalog vocabulary is composed mostly of words of Austronesian origin with borrowings from Japanese, Tamil, Sanskrit, Min Nan Chinese (also known as Hokkien), Javanese, Malay, Arabic, Persian, Kapampangan, languages spoken on Luzon, and others, especially other Austronesian languages.”

    2. Let's not forget the East Indians, Burmese, Thai, Vietnamese, Cambodians, etc… Tibetans. You thinking is swayed by that view that only East Asians are the definitive Asians. Even people from the UK consider Indians to be Asians. And they call East Asians Orientals. So, it depends on who you talk to.

    3. Your opinion that I am trying to be Chinese is simply that… your opinion. I'm just trying to set the record strait that many resoures will tell you that The Philippines is a part of Southeast Asia, yes by region too. Even the Philippines' government website says this.

    4. If you look up any reliable encyclopedia you'll see that the term Pacific Islander is given to the peoples of Oceania, which The Philippines is not a part of. I think Filipinos are unique from any other people in Asia, and there has been some research pointing out that the Pacific Islanders probably came from Asian and The Philippines, not the other way around. But it's true that Filipinos are also unique because of Spanish and U.S. rule.

    5. I don't feel Oriental, like an Oriental rug? Not at all. But I'd like to think we are a part of Asia. Everyone else thinks so. It's only who seem to challenge this when it's not even a big deal, unless people deny this fact.

    6. Special Note: Your comment rings more like a “troll” type post and speaks only of negativity. I'm debating on deleting it, and if I get more negative comments I'm simply going to delete and require member posts only.

  • One

    Hi, I'm going to give many scientific facts why filipinos are oriental asian just like east asia and not hispanic or pacific islander or even african which some fil-ams mainly in southern california claim to be:

    1. Only 3% of the Philippines population has spanish blood.(333 years wasn't long enough compared to the thousands of years chinese were already there)
    1% arab, american, black, and other blood mix.

    2. Filipinos are more oriental looking than some fil-ams think. Many southern chinese, malaysians, japanese, look like filipinos.

    3. Oriental asian(east and southeast asia) has the dna gene haplogroup O dominant within their blood over 50% and not found anywhere else in the world.

    4. Spanish surnames were forced upon filipinos. Filipinos chose a surname out of a book called “Catálogo alfabético de apellidos” when spain invaded. Very few intercourses between spanish and filipinos occured which is why only 3% have spanish blood. It could range also with a filipino having only 10% spanish blood, because Philippines is no longer a spanish colony and no longer having intercourse with spaniards.

    5. Many filipinos retained their chinese last names like Sison, Chua, Ty, Sy, & Lacson, Ong, Go, Lee, and many others.
    Also many filipinos retained their malay last names like Abay, Inamarga, Payot, & Bornok.
    http://www.bibingka.com/names/

    6. 99.9% of filipinos around the world know that they're oriental asian.
    0.01% happen to be mostly fil-ams in southern California.

    7. Hundreds of thousands of chinese were already in the Philippines before the spaniards came in the 1500s and chinese were there for a millenia before that time. It just so happens that the Americans tried to cover this up stating that the Philippines was discovered by Magellan.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aPFaisFCW4

    8. Chinese is the 2nd most largest population, 3rd being korean shows that culture, trade, language, genetics have always been present in the Philippines for generations.

    9. Generally speaking, filipinos like other oriental asian eat rice everyday, almost every meal. Also have rice fields all over the country.

    10. A large percentages of filipinos in the Philippines are light-skinned and have slanted eyes

    11. Philippines is part of southeast asia and a member of ASEAN +3(Brunei, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Japan & South Korea) and all have acknowledged the Philippines as an oriental asian country. Also the US acknowledges this.

    12. Philippines has the 'mall of Asia' also many ads, billboards, commercials, media, and many others mention the fact that the Philippines is an asian country. There's also 'asian journal' a filipino newspaper.

    13. Aside from rice, the food resembles alot with other oriental asian countries, mostly from China: Lumpia(eggroll), pansit canton(chowmein), orange chicken(orange chicken), garlic chicken(garlic chicken), chopsuey (chinese mixed vegetables), pinakbet, sweet and sour chicken(sweet and sour chicken) and many others.

    14. The filipino writing system called alibata or baybayan was used before the spanish invasion and is related to many other southeast asian country writing systems.

    15. If filipinos are islanders, then would japanese, taiwanese, indonesians, malaysian, austrailians, and new zealanders be pacific islanders too? Geographically many of these countries are closer to the pacific ocean than the Philippines.

    16. Not all pacific islanders look hawaiin or samoan. There are 20000-30000 islands in the Pacific Ocean and some have people that look like african and even hispanic.

    17. The Philippines is in the China sea, north is Taiwan, and west is Vietnam.

    18. There are many other southeast asians that have light skin and slanted eyes. Also many south chinese, vietnamese, japanese that are dark and don't have slanted eyes.

    19. Around 4000-2000 B.C. ancestors from Yunnan Plateau in China settled in what is now the Philippines by sailing using balangays coming from Taiwan. Most of these group primarily used the Philippines as a pit-stop to go to the Indonesian archipelago further south. Those who were left behind became the ancestors of the present-day Filipinos.

    20. Since 200 A.D. indigenous people of the what's now called the Philippines were in contact with southeast and east asian nations.

    21. Caucasian(white) is a diverse race too:
    Hair color: brunette, blond, and red, etc
    Eye color: blue, brown, green, hazel, etc
    Nose size: long and short
    Height: Tall and short
    Skin color: brown, tan, white, red, etc
    Hair texture: straight, wavy, curly

    Mongoloid(oriental asians):
    Hair color: black and dark brown
    Eye color: black, dark brown, and brown
    Nose size: small and flat
    Height: Tall and short(mostly)
    Skin color: brown, white, pink, yellow, etc
    Hair texture: straight, wavy, curly

    22. Top magazines state Manny Pacquiao the first asian to win 6 weight titles in the US.

    23. All past and present leaders of the Philippines including the presidents state Philippines a asian nation.

    http://xichibi.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/filipin

  • jose luis

    Hola me llamo Jose luis clavijo sanchez desde euskadi herria,boy hablar referente de la gran grandeza de los filipinos es octubiero una herencia española muy rrica i hagan lo que hagan los putos anglosajones de querer de destruïr el idioma español o castellano o cualquier elemento que los españoles dejaron la raíces española como la mentaridad como costumbre i la gastronomia i la religion catolica,Yo jose luis clavijo sanchez puedo asegura que los filipino se siente en el profundo de su historia en su corazon como en el alma de ser parte de la lengua española i como hispata en lo mas profundo de la raíces filipina i con el tiempo el español sera de nuebamente hispana en la normalidad i la lengua española esta de nuevo normalizado por la historia como por que hay provenir en el futuro comercial anivel internacional con lo cual que leden por el culo a los anglosajones yanqui a tomarla donde hosquepa,VIVA FILIPINA VIVA LA HISPANIDAD.

  • 毎日に探しているんですよ幸せ

    はじめまして。
    慣れないお言葉を使っていただいて、なんかその時点ですでに嬉しいです(笑)
    わたしの絵でよければいつでも見に来てくださいね。門はいつでも開けっ放しです。

  • Rodrigues11

    I heard that before the filipino language used the latin alphabet, we had a indigenous writing system similar to papua new guinea and palau. My whole family is pure filipino and I can honestly say that I am pacific islander. I was born and raised in the philipines, and being called “asian” is a new thing to me. In the philipines the “asian” people were actually very prejudice against me and 99% of the filipino people. Ive never been refferred to as “asian” until I moved to the USA. In the philipines the “asians” refer to us as islanders. Our customs, behavior, and genetic makeup, and appearance is definitely not asian at all. I appreciate your research, but do you realize that filipinos were categorized by “white” people to be asian. I'm from seattle and there is a igiroot filipino community here, and trust me, one glance at them and you will definitely know that they are “pacific islander.” They have grass skirt thongs, and all the accessories and looks to a pac islander. Most of my filipino friends, as I notice in USA, like to say “I'm asian” to mask embarassment of our culture. Alot of my filipino friends and family, embarissingly sometimes tells other people that they are chinese, knowingly for a fact that they are not chinese at all. I think if we know our history, which we share more history with the pacific islanders than “asians”, then we would be in great shape. I think alot of filipinos are just plain embarassed to be filipino……. I really wish we could be honest with ourselves. Plain and simple -

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    1. The Philippines is one of 10 Southeast Asian countries that belong to ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations)

    2. No where on the “official” Philippine Government website does it state that Filipinos are Pacific Islanders. As a matter of fact the Philippine Government calls Filipinos Asian and a part of Asia.

    3. Wikipedia states this about who are NOT Pacific Islander:

    “Inhabitants of the following islands and regions are not considered to be Pacific Islanders: Russia's Kuril Islands, Alaska's Aleutian Islands, Taiwan, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, as they are not located within the three regions of Oceania (Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia).”

    Most Filipinos are of Malaysian origin (Malay + Asia = Malaysia), and even the language is actually closer to Malaysian and Indonesian. The Philippine Government website also states this fact.

    True Pacific Islanders more than likely originated from China, Taiwan, The Philippines and other parts of Asia and possibly Australia. But, Filipinos did not come from Pacific Islanders. It's the other way around. Matter of fact, new research points to Mainland China as the originating point of Pacific Islanders about 7,000 years ago.

    Most people who think Filipinos aren't Asian have a very narrow view of who Asians are. Asians cover a very broad and diverse group of ethnicities and cultures. Something to think about….

  • reynaldo111

    I'm filipino and Ive been mistaken for being hawaiian all my life. I even think I look pacific islander myself. Alll of My family and cousin as well looks pacific islander. This forum is the last desperate attempt to cause ignorant filipinos to disconnect from their pacific islander tradition, history, and heritage.

    Randomguru totally neglects anything pacific islander. He doesnt even acknowledge our pacific islander similarities. He brushes it off.

    Who cares what the government and what the “white” people say. The government could have simply said that filipinos are spanish/hispanic, and as a result randomguru would propably try and convince filipinos that they are spanish/hispanic with wikipedia and government facts.

    Randomguru should follow his heart, and not follow the government and what “white” say.The biggest evidence that filipinos are not asian is how we look in the mirror, and our language. We dont look like asians at all. Our language does not even sound chinese or japanese. Randomguru also desperately tries to link us to japanese and chinese culture. That makes me sad. He is desperate.

    Randomguru constantly talks about diversity in the asian community….What about diversity in pacific community, which filipinos are one of the ethnics that makes the pacific diverse?

    I urge all filipinos to follow their hearts and dont let a forum conivince you that you are not pacific islander.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    I have been mistaken for Hawaiian many times in the past. But I've also been mistaken for an Hispanic as well. But now, Hawaiians themselves are a mixture of ethnic Hawaiians, Japanese, Okinawans, Filipinos, etc.

    Filipinos came to Hawaii during the 1st half of the 20th century, attracted to those islands by opportunities to work. They were part of the 1st wave of Filipino immigrants coming to Hawaii and then to the United States for better opportunities.

    I've already stated all the facts that I've put together in my blog posts about the Filipino people's heritage. No doubt there is a Pacific Islander feel to the people, the culture and the fact that the Philippines is an archipelago of more than 7,000 islands in the Pacific Ocean.

    I'm just trying to emphasize the Filipino people's Asian roots, because it's a fact that we have origins in Asia than in Polynesia and true Pacific Islander nations, who according to much research came from Southeast Asia, Mainland China, Taiwan and parts of Australia and New Zealand.

    If you look in the mirror and think you are a Pacific Islander, then that is your choice and the way you feel about yourself. Filipinos are a unique people that have become a fusion of various influences, cultures, and peoples. Which no doubt is one of the reason why I myself am mistaken for an Hispanic, a Hawaiian or somebody other than Filipino.

    But don't lose sight of the fact that the Philippines is a part of Southeast Asia and is geographically and culturally closer to Southeast Asian countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc than Hawaii, Polynesian Islands, Melanesia, etc. If you truly study those Pacific Islander cultures you'll find them farther apart in culture than say, we are to China, for instance. The Filipinos have been influenced quite a bit by Chinese culture and Chinese merchants traded with the Filipinos for centuries. Many Filipinos have Chinese ancestry, for instance.

    I wouldn't want to be just be thought of as a Pacific Islander, when we have strong ties to Asia AND Europe!

  • reynaldo1111

    Do you realize that the chinese have traveled all over the world. They have a history with the whole world that far surpasses the history with the philipines? The Chinese are more prevalent in other countries, yet people from other countries dont call themselves asian. The core root of our ancestors are not asian. I can bet you.

    If you have studied your filipino goverment history, you would have learned that back in the late 70s and early 80s the filipino government started a campaign to boost their image for trade and economics, and this campaigne included associating with the term “asian” to boost a good image for philipines. They fought hard to be part of SE asia.

    Do you realize that our most oldest cuisines are shared with borneo/papua/pacific? Bagaung, Underground roast pig, etc, etc. Soy sauce, lumpia, pancit is only a recent introduction to the philippines. Even the hawaiians eat soy sauce and have hawaiian fried rice, and hawaiian noodles.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    The Pacific Islanders did come from Southeast Asia… from Borneo, Indonesia, etc. I don't dispute that. But the Filipinos did NOT come from the Pacific Islands, it's the other way around. The Pacific Islanders came from Southeast Asia and new evidence is showing that many came from mainland China some 7,000 years ago.

    Here's a nice link that discusses the origins of Pacific Islanders, and once again The Philippines isn't even mentioned:

    http://www.pbs.org/wayfinders/polynesian.html

    The Philippines is geographically and politically a part of Southeast Asia. What part of that fact don't you understand? If you can't believe what the Philippine government has to say (or not), then there's no point in arguing further…

    You believe you are a Pacific Islander. That is your reality… your mentality. So be it. And Enjoy! :o)

  • Reynaldo12

    The philipines is rarely mentioned in chinese, japanese, korean, vietnamese history articles. And when the philipines is mentioned in asian history, it refers to us as uncivilized islander tribal people. I guess that contradicts your claims.

    Like I said, the biggest evidence of our ancenstry is “how we look”. Majority(99%) of filipinos look of “oceanic origin.” You cant deny that.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    What you are saying means nothing!

    Should you call black people Africans even if they've never been in Africa? Do you call white people non-Americans because they were never the original natives, compared to the American Indians… the true native Americans?

    The Philippines is located in Asia. So therefore they are Asians! And like Americans (who are a big melting pot of ethnicities and cultures, if they were born in American they are Americans!

    The white folks down in South Africa are still called South Africans. Even though they originally came from Europe. Would you call them Europeans? What would you call the black people born and raised in Europe?

    Sorry, but your points really make no sense at all. And there's no more point in arguing with you.

    Anyone born and raised in America are Americans. Anyone born in The Philippines are Filipinos, and because they are in Southeast Asia, they are Asians. Case closed! I'm tired of dealing with idiots!

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    The fact that you mentioned the Philippines not being mentioned in Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese articles says it all, that you have a particular definition of what an Asian should be. But you fail to mention India, Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia and other nations that are a part of Asia. I don't know where you are getting your “source” material from because you could very well be making this stuff up, and I've mentioning a lot of factual information. I do believe you are TROLLING at this point. But don't tell me I never gave you the benefit of the doubt.

    What you are saying means nothing!

    Should you call black people Africans even if they've never been in Africa? Do you call white people non-Americans because they were never the original natives, compared to the American Indians… the true native Americans?

    The Philippines is located in Asia. So therefore they are Asians! And like Americans (who are a big melting pot of ethnicities and cultures, if they were born in American they are Americans!

    The white folks down in South Africa are still called South Africans. Even though they originally came from Europe. Would you call them Europeans? What would you call the black people born and raised in Europe?

    Sorry, but your points really make no sense at all. And there's no more point in arguing with you.

    Anyone born and raised in America are Americans. Anyone born in The Philippines are Filipinos, and because they are in Southeast Asia, they are Asians. Case closed! I'm tired of dealing with idiots!

  • Ezekiel

    FILIPINOS ARE FILIPINOS.
    one thing you forgot to mention in your bias research is our Polynesian influence. My father is have native Filipino, specifically of Bontoc heritage. Our ties with the Polynesian ancestry is evident in the tribal tattoos and designs/patterns found in some native groups of the Philippines. Undeniably Philippine ancestry also comes from both Asia and the Pacific region.
    Native Filipinos simply migrated from both Asia and Pacific islands.

    'In 1521, when Spanish ships led by Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan arrived in the Philippine Archipelago, they met a peaceful and friendly population that had skill in shipbuilding, agriculture, mining, and textiles. Trade was being transacted with Japan, China, and other parts of the South Pacific, and a system of weights and measures governed their relations. However, the region soon to be known as the Philippines was not a nation. There were people of related language cultures—Tagalogs, Bisayans, Pampangos, Ilokanos, Bikolanos, and others—who came to call themselves Filipinos, but this was only to denote their geographical origin, not any “national” loyalty.' – http://www.schillerinstitute.org/educ/hist/riza

    I put to you that Filipinos are Asian but also recognize a difference in their culture and do not relate to other Asian cultures as easily as the Chinese, Korean's and the Japanese do with each other. Their culture and history is more similar to each other than with the Philippines. Another reason may also be because of the connotations and stereotypes associated with the classification of 'Asian' mostly refer to other Asian countries.

  • Dexter Ignacio

    Here is simple explanation:

    Filipinos are only asian mainly due to geography. Filipino culture and heritage is pacific. There is no denying this! Our filipino population evidently inherits many traits and cultures from the pacific. (tatoos, ancient pig cooking, pottery, tools, writing, language)

    We can be called asian, but it is very pretentious.

  • Elise

    Due to geographic location, technically Filipinos are “Asians”, just as those from Spain, France, Sweden are “Europeans”. I think due to the Philippines at one time being a United States territory and having a history of asserting its independence from past domination by other countries, Filipinos have taken pride in their unique cultural identity. It explains why in surveys, applications and other documents, there is a separate category for them. Maybe it also gives them pride in distinguishing themselves from other Asians: Japanese, korean, Chinese, Indians, etc. Maybe there is some history that Filipinos, especially in Hawaii, and I am not sure today, have not been THE “Asians” such as the Japanese with “power” and “clout” in business and other law-making affairs. Having the “Filipino” identity shows strength, character, and solidarity, instead of just being referred to as “Asian”, which sounds generic. Identifying oneself as a “Filipino-American” adds another dimension to Filipinos who live in the United States their home. It also adds to the political strength which is still lacking in local communities due to still not having a solid identity or lack of acknowledgement of the important contributions of Filipino Americans in the professional communities (business, medicine, science, law, entertainment). I hope that more Filipino-Americans make contributions to education. In the high school that I teach, I am one of four teachers with Filipino ancestry. out of 130 teachers in our staff (predominantly Hispanic and white), and considering that nearly 1/4 of the students are classified as Filipino. So still there is a lack of representation of Filipinos in certain areas. Unfortunately, despite the fact that I am born and raised in the United States, I cannot escape my cultural identity and heritage. I laughed when one lady talking on the phone assumed that was blond and blue eyes after seeing me in person because I spoke “English”, without an accent. But don't all people speak with a certain type of accent? I am proud to admit that most, if not all, Filipinos, even those from the Philippines speak “English”. Philippines could be considered a version of the United States in “Asia” due to its affinity for what is American. Just my perspective….

  • JRC

    Writing? You're saying that Alibata/Baybayin is influenced by the cultures of the Pacific?

    If anything, it's influenced by the cultures of Asia. Like Sanskrit, for example. Baybayin even follows the same pattern of that writing system. The writing systems of Thailand, Cambodia, and neighboring Southeast Asian countries do the same thing.

    And tools? Take our Filipino weapons, then. Would you say that the kalis or kampilan are of Oceanic origin?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FAR6IS3LBWWIALC55JQQKGEHVE Anthony T

    “Filipinos are Asian but they are not cocky about it.” Chelsea Lately

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    Chelsea Lately said that? Wow… cool! :o)

  • bisdak

    So what if Filipinos are called “Fake Asians”. Do we really care ?
    We are unique .

  • Eliza batunga

    I am filipino.

    The term “Asian” is generic and misleading. Why call ourselves Asian? The world should be categorized by culture and actual genetics…..not geography. Filipino culture is completely different from Vietnamese, Chinese, etc. I feel oddly forced when I'm around my viet, jap, Chinese friends. When I go to my Vietnamese friend's house I instantly know that there is no connection between Filipinos and Asian people. Their culture is, no doubt, different than our Filipino culture.

    When I eat at a Chinese, viet jap restaurant I don't feel like it's the same like eAting at a Filipino restaurant.

    I really think we Filipinos are a extreme exception to Asia. The problem with most of Filipinos is that we tend to try be part of another culture instead of creating our own. I remember back in the late 1970, all Filipinos I knew referred to them selves as spanish/ pacific. Then in the 1980s alot of Filipinos identified themselves as being western… and not even associating with being Asian at all. Now we are Asian in the 1990s?

    I can't beleive how Filipinos just jump around cultures. We should be true to our people and not try to use other cultures to boost our self esteem.

  • Jayz614

    can't help to laughed at this one…so funny..the humor…

    u guys are crazy (meant this in a good way)..i was laughing my ass off..

  • just asking..

    If we consider geography then PI is part of Asia and therefore called Asians just like Spain and Germany, are Europeans because they are part of Europe but called themselves Germans and Spaniards like we called ourselves Filipinos. But i think personally, someone identity should be based on ancestry rather than “mapquest”. So, if we belong to that one “ancestry”, then we are that one, we just happens to be in Asia. I have Spanish blood in me and i look more Spanish/Hispanics than Filipino (grew and raised BTW in the PI and now live in the US), that even Latinos mistaken me as one of them. But i consider myself Filipino, of course or Asian. So, what am I really? Heck, no one knows and i don't know myself..only science and God can tell me. But all i know is that i may not look like one but i am Filipino. And if Pacific islanders came from the Asian archepelago way back thousands of years ago, then that explains why we look more like them or the other way around. Therefore, if the truth beholds, then we can consider ourselves too as Pacific islanders.. But we PI do not belong in oceanea (?) as they say, so i guess we can't call ourselves that. Those people from that island consider themselves as one just because they live there (born and raise) though they have asian/filipino or whatever asian blood in them. So, do we consider PI as Asian because of geography or ancestry?

  • Bobbyjack876

    Flips are asian. Come on guys quit trying to come up with every excuse to not be asian. If you lined some flips up with other asians such as chinese, indonesian, whatever and asked people to pick out the non asian id dont think they could. Its true that they claim to be asian if its a good trait such as being smart and then claim whatever else otherwise. We could all go into the arguments of euro influences making them non asians, but other nations have euro influences and still call themselves asian. Come on flips quit trying to be unique, you guys are not unique from asians. You guy want to be unique because in reality you guys have nothing going for yourselves. Its a joke that a poster above says that only flips use the alphabet, come on do your homework. I had a class mate in HS who was flip claim that he was not asian. One day I said we asians are smart right? He said yes we are..case dismissed!

  • getthefactsstraight

    im filipino and i dont think im asian i believe i am a pacific islander. but the reason we all have last names that are spanish(mine is barcelona) is because spain conquered the phillipines and gave us those last names. also our language is based most on spanish because we were taught spanish when spain invaded. also only some words in tagalog/our language was from spanish but most relates to Austronesian languages. Nobody needs you to mouth talk any race, dont judge before you KNOW. and i am american by nationality. oh and last thing, all races are beautiful, you dont have a right to judge them until you know what they’ve been through but it looks like you dont know anything.

  • Morales

    I saw a video on youtube that refferred the phillipines ” The Queen of the Pacific”. I guess this makes us Pacific Islander.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvpbsyNcI3I

  • morales

    Spain and Germany is a bad comparison. I think a better comparison would be morroco, algeria, or any part of north africa. Alot of african culture but somehow still associated with europe.

  • morales

    Spain and Germany is a bad comparison. I think a better comparison would be morroco, algeria, or any part of north africa. Alot of african culture but somehow still associated with europe.

  • morales

    I dont agree with you. I can tell the difference between filipinos and other asians including other se asian people too. Filipinos have these pac/spanish eyes. I dont think our eyes look asian at all. Filipinos look more oceanic and pac islander.

  • morales

    I dont agree with you. I can tell the difference between filipinos and other asians including other se asian people too. Filipinos have these pac/spanish eyes. I dont think our eyes look asian at all. Filipinos look more oceanic and pac islander.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    that is very true. contrary to what others say (the one's who wouldn't know any better) if you lined up filipinos with other asian groups, you actually would have a harder time than you think. there was a website that did this and you were supposed to decide if an asian were filipino, japanese, chinese, korean, vietnamese, etc, and people had a hard time telling which was which. the fact that they included filipinos in the group is yet another sign that many people consider filipinos to be asian!

  • Judah Flies

    THE PHILIPPINES JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN ASIA BUT THE PEOPLE IN IT, FILIPINOS, ARE PACIFIC ISLANDERS. GEOGRAPHICALLY THE PHILIPPINES IS ASIAN BUT GENEALOGICALLY IT IS PACIFIC ISLANDER. THIS FORUM IS ALL ABOUT FILIPINOS AND NOT THE PHILIPPINES THEREFORE PACIFIC ISLANDER IS THE RIGHT ANSWER. I AM FILIPINO AND, I DON'T JUST PREFER PACIFIC ISLANDER, BUT, I REALLY AM. PLUS I PREFER MY COUNTRY CALLED THE PHILIPPINE ISLANDS!

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    I've already presented the facts in 4 separate blog posts, so read it and learn…

    In many respects, The Philippines (like America) is a melting pot of Malay, Indian, Chinese, Taiwanese, Spanish and American ethnicities and cultures.

    If I was born and raised in the United States, that makes me an American but I'm not Caucasian. So… regional, nationalistic and geographic designations ARE a big part of it. Because, in essence I AM a Filipino-American.

    By the way, we might as well start calling Japan the Japanese Islands, because once again they are in the Pacific Ocean and they are a group of islands, though not as many as The Philippines.

    And last I saw, when I was back in the Philippines a few years ago, it felt more like a Southeast Asian nation rather than a true Pacific Islander nation like Samoa, Fiji, Tahiti, etc. There seemed to be many Chinese Filipinos there, and I couldn't tell many Filipinos from Chinese, Malaysians, Indonesians or Thais. My wife is sometimes mistaken for Japanese, and she has some Spanish and Chinese blood in her ancestry!

    If anything, history shows that the Pacific Islanders originated FROM The Philippines and Asia, not the other way around.

    This and other posts on this site are meant to set the record straight! NOT to start a debate. Because many Filipinos like yourself are so freaking confused beyond belief!

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    You can think whatever you want, but it doesn't mean it's the truth!

  • Descanar

    I live in Hawaii and most of the Filipinos here associate themselves as Asian. There are many ethnicities here in Hawaii and in my High School…I can tell the differences between a Filipino a Samoan and a Hawaiian. In certain groups, the Filipinos…look no different to Chinese, Japanese, and Vietnamese. I once mistaken my Vietnamese classmate for being Filipino.

    In groups here in my school…all the Filipinos, Chinese, and Japanese are together. While the Hawaiians are in their own group and same can be said for the Samoans.

    Also, Charice Pempengco is classified as the first Asian to be on the Billboards. I must say that I mistaken her to be a Korean and she is pure Filipino.

    If you have seen the video posted on this blog, you cannot tell the differences between SE Asians. Just go on Youtube and search SE Asians.

    To some…have you read all the points on this blog? I have and am a bit more educated on this subject after reading this and done some research of my own. I have never associated myself to be a Pacific Islander and I can easily tell the differences and that my culture is different to the Pacific Islands.

    So far, those who say that Filipinos are Asians, I agree with them. The facts are there.

    It's very disturbing if I am unsure whether I am a Pacific Islander or not…an Asian or not. I know I am Filipino and culturally…I think we are closer to Asian. We even look closer to SE Asians. We are associated with Asia.

    We are closer to Asia and far away from the Pacific Islands. With that being said, we have a much more easier time having Asian influences.

    If there weren't a lot of Filipinos going to Hawaii and the influences of the Pacific Island on the children who then go to college in the mainland…maybe there wouldn't be as much confusion?

    What we tend to be ignorant on is that in order to be Asian you need to be oriental. Chinese and the Japanese are not the only Asians! The culture is more attractive to some I suppose and we forget their Asian neighbors. Asian does not = only oriental. African does not always = Black Americans.

    It is confusing as to what to believe. When Filipinos try to associate themselves as a Pacific Islander, we will be rediculed. If we try to associate ourselves to be Asians, people laugh at us. All I know is that I am Filipino and I find it hard to believe that we are closer to Pacific Islanders than Asians. I am considering the argument that we are Pacific Islanders, but I am convinced that we are closer to Asia and not just literally but culturally as well.

  • Dan

    Im a filipino too but pls get your facts straight before you claim you’re a pacific-islander.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    I agree. The facts have all been laid out on these blog posts for everyone’s information.

  • chaari

    Thank you for your posts which are extremely edifying and very factual. I just can’t believe that they are falling on deaf ears.

  • Bob

    Sure Philippines are “Asians,” if you want to be technical about the term, based on geography and genetics; but culturally, Filipinos are not at all similar to “East Asians” (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese), which is what most Americans think of when they hear “Asian.”

    East Asia
    -Religion: Mahayana Buddhism (there is a growing presence of Christianity, however, in South Korea), ancestral veneration, and shamanism (Shinto)
    - Philosophy/Ethics: Blend of Taoism (mystical )and Confucianism (practical)
    - Language: Although Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese are not part of the Sino-Tibetan language family (of which Chinese is predominant), Chinese loanwords form a substantial part of their vocabulary (just look at names for starters)
    - Writing: The Chinese script heavily influenced the Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese (their original script anyway) scripts (calligraphy in each East Asian country is drawn with Chinese characters)
    - Food: Besides a few indigenous dishes like kimchee (Korean) and sushi (Japanese); Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese food is akin to Chinese food
    - Chopsticks (silly, I know, but it’s one of many relics that bind East Asian culture)
    - Architecture: the curved roof stands out in particular

    Filipinos
    - Religion: Catholicism
    - Philosophy/Ethics: Catholic-based and westernized no doubt
    - Language: Tagalog, an Austronesian language unrelated to East Asian languages at all
    - Writing: Latin-based script
    - Food: Indians and Mexicans have a rice rich diet too, but aside from a few Chinese inspired dishes (in the sense of Chinese inspired American food like orange chicken), I would not classify Filipino food as East Asian at all
    - I believe Filipinos ate mainly with their hands before the arrival of spoons, forks, and knives
    - Architecture: Completely Westernized except maybe in rural and tribal regions

    I could go on and on about art (like the aforementioned calligraphy), traditional games (mah-jonh and go), traditional clothing, and much much more. But I think you guys get the point.

    Technically, yes, Filipinos are “Asians” in the same sense that Egyptians are “African.” Egyptians can be considered Africans because, well, their country is located in Africa; and because they have traces of sub-Saharan African genes. But Egyptian culture is definitely not related in any meaningful way to native sub-Saharan African culture. There is of course a more meaningful and accurate to classify both FIlipinos and Egyptians. Filipinos are considered “Southeast Asians,” which is distinct from “East Asians,” (which is what most people here think of, I think, when they say “Asian”) and Egyptians are considered North Africans, which is distinct from sub-Saharan Africans.

  • WeAreAllHumans.

    “just like a filipino taking credit for the intellectual development of a honda car.”

    - So if you consider Chinese people as Asians, can they take credit of Honda cars as well? Can the Japanese people take credit of Samsung? Man, I don’t know where you’re coming from but you definitely have a questionable premise. :)

  • Yasuke Hiro

    The problem when people think of Asians is the stereotypical East Asian. The Chinese were the most recognizable Asians around the world. They were the first ones to come to America and from there it would create a stereotype that would apply to many other Asians who would come to America. We Filipinos are not the same as the East Asians but we are similar to South East Asians who themselves are different from East Asians. Asians make up more than half of the world’s population. Obviously if there would be anyone with great diversity amongst cultures it would be Asia. And also though our traditions seem Spanish our beliefs at the core are like any other Asians. Collectivism (our belief that we are a group or importance on interpersonal relationships), hiya (shame or face), family oriented, respect toward elders and others values are more oriental then occidental. My parents raised me based on these Filipino values and I can say I can relate more to other Asians (even East Asians to a certain degree) than Latinos who seem more individualistic or outspoken. Our appearance is Western but deep, deep, I mean really deep (thanks to many years of colonization) down we are Asian, just unfortunately the most influenced by the West but whatever the best of both worlds right. In a world that is heading towards globalization we already have an advantage. While it is importance to know our roots as Asians we can’t forget we also have other influences that while forced upon us really will in the long run help us. If we can’t accept every aspect of us, both Asian and to a degree Western, we will be forever confused about who we are. Oh ya and even though “Mike” will probably never read this I have to say for a “Japanese” you lack the tact that I normally associated with most Asians (if not at most the Japanese). You almost seem to act like a gaijin.

  • Orleander

    Filipino want to be black and act black. Even calling each other my nigger. But Oh boy are they racist against blacks and they will never say nigger when they are black people around. Filipinos dont even want to be asian.

  • Red

    On your last post you said you were Japanese. Now you’re Chinese? Make up your mind.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ate-Ri/100001541987760 Ate Ri

    Filipinos are Pacific Islanders and Asian. Research the colonization of the Philippines, before the spanish came, Malaysian, Indonisian, Japanese, chinese, etc… were already there. THEN the Whiteys came. (Spanish, a bit of British, and American).

    As a Filipino myself, we should call ourselves the Mid-Asians! XD

  • Annonymous

    We are Asians. Not even close to Pacific Islanders,

    Before the Spaniards came, the Philippines were ruled by cheiftains called either Datu, Rajah and Sultan that practiced either Islam or Buddhism and they spoke a language that resembled Old Malay. These nobles wore silk robes and jewels.

    That alone makes the Philippines an Asian country by culture! What Pacific Islander country was ruled by Sultans and Rajahs? Like the Sultan of Saudi Arabia or Rajah from Malaysia? What Pacific Islander country resembled Old Malay?

    The rest of the populous (commoners) practiced Animism – belief that animal spirits are present in all things. That is also common in Asian cultures, I mean look at Japan’s Shinto, they believe there’s a spirit for everything.

    The Spaniards came, the Chinese kept giving us East Asian influences. The Manton de Manila that were really made from China, the Salakot hats adorned with shells and gold, etc. Spanish colonization basically just Hispanicized already existent Asian aspects in the Philippines.

    I mean just look at the last names! For example, “Cojaungco” is a Chinese last name spelled in Spanish orthography (writing). It’s suppoused to be spelled something like Ko-huang-ko.

  • Wicky448

    sigh… to me Filipinos are not Asian, instead they are a unique country that can’t be accurately defined due to the mix in cultures, but pacific islanders are a good name. Btw mr. anonymous, if you only say Filipinos are asian just beacuse they wore silk robes and jewels then you might as well call everyone a fucking asian. seriously that is the stupidist thing iv ever heard. You can’t call someone an asian just because they have like 1/10 ancestry of asians. Besides Filipinos from what i read, more closely resemble Spanish people, and they are PROUD OF IT.

    Stop fucking around and let the Filipinos decide themselves, from my knowledge the majority like to be called pacific islanders, while the others call themselves asian. Trying to justify yourself as asian is pathetic to be honest.

    Don’t call yourself an asian. Your not an asian country, your a country with SOME asian ancestry. But that asian ancestry is from a culture such as China, Korea, Japan…. your Philippines is a place that blood mixing occurred, they reproduced with different people till they reproduced/mate with other Filipinos. Besides i think if they were to be classified as a race they should be spanish, since the spanish took over the Philippines, and forced their culture, blood, lalallalala ect. THUS your Filipino society is filled with more spanish culture than asian,

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    I think you’re missing the point. Because you’re coming from the perspective that East Asians are the only Asians, and this is a common misconception. Pakistanis and Indians are Asian too, and they look nothing like other Asians.

    It’s also a fact that most Filipinos come from Malay ancestry, and only a minority have Spanish blood or even look Mestizo. Sure, there is 333 years of Spanish rule and influence. Does that much time make us more Spanish. If you were to honestly put a typical Filipino next to a typical Spaniard, we don’t look much alike now, do we?

    Now if we look more Malay and like our brothers and sisters from Malaysia and Indonesia, why are they not considered Pacific Islanders and are considered Asian, but Filipinos aren’t? Because of our Spanish influence? I don’t think that classifies us as Pacific Islander.

    If the Philippine Government (on the official website) states that the Philippines is an Asian country, are we not to believe our government if they say we are Asian?

    I don’t think MOST Filipinos consider themselves Pacific Islander, and I think the some Filipinos have been mis-informed or consider themselves Pacific Islander simply because the Philippines sometimes is included with Asia-Pacific groups. I think that is where much of the confusion lies.

    And I don’t even think your typical Pacific Islander from Tongo, Fiji, Samoa, or Tahiti looks anything like a Filipino. They are a unique people as well.

    Anyway, that is the purpose of this article and the others on this site. I guess if you consider that the east side of the Philippines faces the Pacific Ocean and we live on thousands of islands, then you could consider us Pacific Islanders (but look at Japan), but the west side is facing the South China Sea. But, the fact is, the Philippines is a South Asian country.

    http://carlosrull.com/2009/11/02/are-filipinos-asian-part-3-a-search-for-cultural-identity/

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    i meant “Southeast Asian” country. ;)

  • matt!

    Asian refers to a person from Asia.
    # Asian people – the people of the continent of Asia

    * North Asians, includes people west of the Urals and the Ural river, north of East and Central Asia. Includes:
    o Yakuts
    o Tungusic peoples
    o Uralic peoples east of the Urals
    o the Ainu people
    * East Asians, including:
    o Japanese people
    o Chinese people
    o Koreans
    o Mongols
    * Southeast Asians, including:
    o Thai people
    o Vietnamese people
    o Filipino people
    o Cambodian people
    o Bruneian people
    o Malaysian people
    o Indonesian people
    * South Asians, includes:
    o the Indian subcontinent
    * Central Asians including
    o Uzbeks
    o Karakalpaks
    o Tajik people
    o Hazara people
    o Kyrgyz
    o Hiuodijfella
    o Uyghur people
    o Kazakhs
    o Pashtun people
    * Western Asians, including:
    o Arab people
    o Turkish people
    o the Caucasus
    o Kurdish people
    o Iranian peoples

    dude, Filipino’s are Asian…

  • Axecelcar

    –Asians are smart
    –Asians doesn’t show off their country’s flag in a foreigner country (it’s in in all chinese, korean, jap ,maybe indian proverbs that if you live in a country you must learn to adapt and change into the environement)
    –Asians keep a low profile
    –Asians don’t show off their assets (filopinnos always have some competition with their friends and neighbours , for example, neighbour gets new car, they must get a new-better car)
    ==Enough SAID==

  • I<3BEING ASIAN

    that is really rude to say that, there is no reason you would have to feel the need to insult their language.SO DONT TELL THEM THEY NEED TO GET NUKED

  • Michael Mills

    Did you get raped by a filipino damn really so many pinoy haters. P.S. I’m not filipino

  • Looneyticks

    It’s hard to believe that outside of the Philippines, there’s this debate going on. For a person who has been born, raised, and lived all her life in the Philippines, it comes as a surprise to me that we are being labeled as Pacific Islanders. Nowhere in our educational system or even in the general mindset do we see ourselves as Pacific Islanders. While technically that may have some basis in historical fact, I guess the more salient point is how Filipinos *in the Philippines* actually identify themselves–and to that end, if you ask anyone here which of the two they consider themselves as, they’d definitely say Asian, and you’d probably even get a “Huh? Pacific Islander? What’s that?”

    Fact is, Asia being the largest continent in the world, it shouldn’t be any wonder that its people would also be the most diverse. To pin just one cultural identity to the tag of “Asian” is, even more than insulting, just downright ignorant.

    This seems to be a point of contention only for people outside of the Philippines, mostly in the US, who, because of the preconceived notion that all Asians must look and be culturally similar to the East Asians (yes, let’s just forget India, the Middle East, and the rest of Southeast Asia) are led into convincing themselves that they are not Asian.

    And for those who try to reason backwards that it’s shameful how Filipinos over there go “Asian Pride!!!” all the time when “they’re not Asians,” please don’t lump every Filipino in the same mold, because we are not all like that, and some of us are as disgusted with such behavior as you are.

    So while it’s true that genetically and culturally we can also be “Pacific Islanders,” I simply attest the fact that Filipinos in the Philippines consider themselves Asian, and no matter how some people outside the country try to convince themselves otherwise for reasons anywhere between academic inquiry and plain mule-headed cultural attack, it won’t change the local mindset.

  • Nomos02

    wow daming comment…magpatayan na lang kayo

  • Mfskins

    well sir by using your own logic and understanding the obvious enumerated facts arguing about the credibility of this article shouldnt even be the case. Its merely stating the obvious so why are you bitching if you totally agree with the article? I guess you want to look smart or some shit eh?

  • whocares

    Filipinos are geographically, culturally and genetically asians. Those who disagree are logically impaired and just dumbasses overall. This isn’t a subjective idea; it’s a fact. Look at your history books and stop being so stupid about shit.

  • Shredingman123

    people from the Southern Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia all look the same and has identical cultures , since the southern part of the Philippines remained free from the westernization of Spain and the US. Asian is not even a race, its a geographical assignment to a people within the said area, Mongoloid is a more correct term and yes, Filipinos are genetically closer to east asians compared to samoans and the like. And why is it that the Philippines the only country being booted out of asia? why is indonesia and malaysia spared from this bullshit?

  • shikshin28

    WRONG. We Filipinos use to have a character based alphabet known as The Alibata which was used by Native Filipinos up until the Spaniards invaded our country. You want to know why it isn’t used by most Filipinos anymore? Let alone why majority of the world didn’t know The Alibata even existed? It’s because the Spaniards feared the natives were plotting a rebellion to overthrow the Spanish regime through propaganda written in characters Spanish colonizers could not read. Since they disliked the fact the natives were communicating with each other through writing in something Spaniards could not understand, THEY FORCED TO CHANGE THAT BY INTRODUCING THEIR ALPHABET AND POSSIBLY BANNING THE USE OF THE ALIBATA. And excuse me, but no trace in Asian culture? Unless you live in the Philippines yourself, you have no right to say that. Just because your best friend is Filipino and there happen to be “similarities” with your culture doesn’t mean they are exactly the same. We have similarities with Chinese, Malaysian, Indonesian, Japanese, Thai, Indian, and Vietnamese cultures as well. So don’t go saying Filipinos are not Asian just because you failed to see similarities in our culture with other Asian countries. You don’t even know what you are talking about. And FYI, India is an Asian country too so what’s your point? Go learn more about Asian History and facts before even commenting on things like this and making it sound like you know everything when majority of your argument is wrong.

  • realasian

    you guys are like mexicans of asia lol

  • realasian

    first off the languages are not similar, the food is defenetly not similar and the dance are u kidding me, not even close lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/irwin.desuyo Irwin Desuyo

     I’m a Filipino.
    I’m neither asian nor caucasian. not an african nor an indian. not a polynesian nor arabic. not an american nor latino. My ancestors came from the great city of atlantis. hehe

  • Fu Sa

    Filipinos might or might not know this but even Philippines is in Asia and official categorized as Asian, the average Asians (Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Vietnamese/Mongolian/Thai) don’t see Filipinos as the Oriental Asians as identified by others.  Ethnically, majority of Filipinos are Indo-Malay type of Asian, ethnically and culturally they are Malay, a few twisted version of Spanish/Chinese etc. because of scattering migration and colonization.  Filipinos just don’t have those typical oriental social values and aren’t as smart as those Orientals either

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  • anymous0602

    Filipinos are of mixed race already majority is Southeast Asian. By Culture it’s also a mixed between Asian, Hispanic and Mexican. Why? Before Pre-Colonial Philippines never existed as well as Filipinos. So our culture is no longer just Asian since they named our country Philippines. The National Personification that always represent the image of the Filipino is JUAN DELA CRUZ & MARIA CLARA.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mariisabel.ilano.5 Connie Ilano

    genetically filipinos are right along with the chinese and koreans in haplogrouping. culturally, psychologically and emotionally the filipinos are mixed up.

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  • BarnieLebron

    black americans are called americans yet they originated from africa…I rest my case!

  • Momomomo

    YOU ARE STUPID.

  • http://carlosrull.com Randomguru

    once again, you’re coming from a viewpoint that Japanese, Koreans, Chinese are the only Asians. but, people from India have been called Asians by many people in Europe, specifically the United Kingdom, who tend to call Japanese, Chinese, Koreans “Orientals”…

    If Indians are considered Asian, and I personally consider them Asian as well. Then, Mongolians are Asian.

    Filipinos do NOT look South Pacific. What are you smoking? If anything they are closer to Malaysians, Singaporeans, Indonesians, and no one’s been saying THEY look South Pacific!

    you’re viewpoint is “slanted” (no pun intended) and skewed, and very biased… and at worst quite racist… i’m beginning to think Japanese are Asian Supremacists! And, that’s what you sound like. I’m just callin’ it what it is…

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